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  #11  
Old August 3rd 06, 02:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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fine. License, certficate, call it what you want...

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Old August 3rd 06, 02:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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?

How is this in any way relevant to issuing a PPL to a candidate using a
phony name and social security number????





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Old August 3rd 06, 02:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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SSNs correlated to flying skills? What??? I'm just saying that the FAA
should positively identify persons who wish to obtain PPLs.


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Old August 3rd 06, 02:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
SSNs correlated to flying skills? What??? I'm just saying that the FAA
should positively identify persons who wish to obtain PPLs.



And the FAA should be able to do, without fail, what Banks, Credit Card
companies, Department Homeland Security and a bevy of other public and
private sector organizations can't do?


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Old August 3rd 06, 03:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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All the threads on the OSH chaos confirm how easy it is for any fool to
get a ticket.

I think you don't understand what a "ticket" really is.

fine. License, certficate, call it what you want...


1: You should quote what you're replying to. Just a hint helps.

2: I'm not ragging on what you call it. ("ticket" is a perfectly fine
slang term for the pilot certificate.) Rather, I'm saying that, by your
comment, you don't understand what a pilot certificate =is=. It is an
indication that one has met =minimum= standards. It is a licence to
=learn=; emphasis on the fact that, even after one gets their ticket,
one is still learning. It is not by any means an indication that one
has learned all there is to learn about flying, that one is immune from
errors, lapses of judgement, or that one is superhuman.

Getting a ticket, then, does not make one immune from stupidity, and
should not be regarded as such. If we actually held people to those
standards before permitting them to fly, the skies overhead would be
very quiet indeed.

Jose
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Old August 3rd 06, 03:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Skylune wrote:

Pilots just like to blame everyone else for the problems of GA, and never
place the blame where it clearly, obviously squarely belongs: on the
pilots, the FAA, and the funding system.


I'm sure there are pilots like you describe, but to make such a stupid
generalization is, well, stupid.. But we've come to expect nothing more
from you, so you didn't disappoint here.

My experience has been that *most* pilots have a strong sense of
personal responsibility and don't blame others for their own mistakes.
But these folks stay out of the spotlight by not causing accidents, or
attempting "stupid pilot tricks" like buzzing, (exercising good
judgement) and staying current and competent in their aircraft so as
not to become a statistic and put aviation in a bad light. You never
hear from these people, just the ones like the MU-2 pilot that killed
his friends.

Here's the link to the NTSB brief of the accident. Incredible how
someone like that slipped through the cracks for so long. Obviously the
pilot/owner was a weasel with a spotty record that shouldn't have been
in the air in *any* airplane, never mind a MU-2 IMHO.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...FA105& akey=1

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Old August 3rd 06, 03:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Skylune wrote:

All the threads on the OSH chaos confirm how easy it is for any fool to
get a ticket.


Obviously it's not that easy. You couldn't get yours.

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Old August 3rd 06, 03:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Kingfish" wrote in message
oups.com...

Here's the link to the NTSB brief of the accident. Incredible how
someone like that slipped through the cracks for so long. Obviously the
pilot/owner was a weasel with a spotty record that shouldn't have been
in the air in *any* airplane, never mind a MU-2 IMHO.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...FA105& akey=1


Speaking of people slipping through the cracks. Here is part of the full
narrative on a accident that happened here Jan of 1999.

"According to FAA medical records, the pilot was issued a third class
medical certificate on January 24, 1997. The last pilot logbook entry was
dated April 19, 1998. According to the pilot logbook, the most recent
biennial flight review occurred on April 16, 1988. Additionally, there was
no record of an instrument competency check, nor any record of instrument
flight rules currency."

Here's the link
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...FA060& akey=1


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Old August 3rd 06, 05:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
...

"Kingfish" wrote in message
oups.com...

Here's the link to the NTSB brief of the accident. Incredible how
someone like that slipped through the cracks for so long. Obviously the
pilot/owner was a weasel with a spotty record that shouldn't have been
in the air in *any* airplane, never mind a MU-2 IMHO.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...FA105& akey=1


Speaking of people slipping through the cracks. Here is part of the full
narrative on a accident that happened here Jan of 1999.

"According to FAA medical records, the pilot was issued a third class
medical certificate on January 24, 1997. The last pilot logbook entry was
dated April 19, 1998. According to the pilot logbook, the most recent
biennial flight review occurred on April 16, 1988. Additionally, there was
no record of an instrument competency check, nor any record of instrument
flight rules currency."

Here's the link
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...FA060& akey=1


One addition to the above. Word is the Doctor that died in this crash didn't
have a driver's lic. either.


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Old August 3rd 06, 07:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steve Foley[_1_]
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Great idea!!

Pass a law against everything, and make the gubmint responsible every time
something goes wrong.

No more personal responsibility.

Long live king Skylune!!!!


"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
I'm just saying that the FAA
should positively identify persons who wish to obtain PPLs.




 




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