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Old August 4th 06, 06:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_3_]
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IBTD. They hire 3 scientists where we take 1. And copying is an art over
there and not seen as a bad or illegal thing.


Copying is no substitute for innovation.


Yes, but until they change, China is all about copying what they find
elsewhere, including the manufacturing processes, with all of the ecological
and safety measures taken off, of course.

They are polluting their future generations.
--
Jim in NC

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Old August 5th 06, 10:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:07:25 -0400, Morgans wrote:

They are polluting their future generations.


unless you don't at least sign the Kyoto treaty and act accordingly you
have no say, IMHO.

#m
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Old August 5th 06, 10:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Duniho
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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They are polluting their future generations.


unless you don't at least sign the Kyoto treaty and act accordingly you
have no say, IMHO.


Have you signed the Kyoto treaty? Somehow, I doubt it. So by your own
opinion, you have no say.


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Old August 5th 06, 11:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin Hotze[_1_]
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On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:13:10 -0700, Peter Duniho wrote:

unless you don't at least sign the Kyoto treaty and act accordingly you
have no say, IMHO.


[2]

Have you signed the Kyoto treaty?


yes. [1]

Somehow, I doubt it.


*bah*

So by your own
opinion, you have no say.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kyoto_Protocol_signatories
there are not so many red spots .... [1]


[1] to answer your question: Austria has signed on Sep 24th 1998 and
ratified on May 31st 2002.
[2] I have to correct myself: you (the USA) have signed, but not ratified:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol#Position_of_the_United_States


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Old August 5th 06, 12:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Martin Hotze wrote:

On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:13:10 -0700, Peter Duniho wrote:

unless you don't at least sign the Kyoto treaty and act accordingly you
have no say, IMHO.


[2]

Have you signed the Kyoto treaty?


yes. [1]


I'm guessing Peter meant you personally signed the treaty.

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Old August 5th 06, 06:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Duniho
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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Have you signed the Kyoto treaty?


yes. [1]


You answered "yes", but your footnote discusses Austria's signing of the
treaty, not your own.

I ask again: have YOU signed the Kyoto treaty?

[...]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kyoto_Protocol_signatories
there are not so many red spots .... [1]


I looked at that list. I didn't see your name on it. In fact, the entire
list is of countries, not individual people.

So, again, by your own opinion, you have no say.

Pete


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Old August 5th 06, 07:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin Hotze[_1_]
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On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 10:07:43 -0700, Peter Duniho wrote:

I ask again: have YOU signed the Kyoto treaty?

[...]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kyoto_Protocol_signatories
there are not so many red spots .... [1]


I looked at that list. I didn't see your name on it. In fact, the entire
list is of countries, not individual people.

So, again, by your own opinion, you have no say.

Pete


*wow* .. stick a finger up your ass!
Idiot.

Yes, I started calling names. Do whatever you want.

EOD.

#m, *shakinghead*

(fup2poster, you are free to ignore it)
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Old August 5th 06, 07:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Duniho
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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*wow* .. stick a finger up your ass!


Thanks for the offer, but you can keep your finger to yourself.

Idiot.


You insist that a person needs to have signed the Kyoto treaty to express an
opinion on environmental issues, you haven't signed the treaty yourself in
spite of claiming that you have, and *I* am the idiot?

I suppose I could interpret your statement to mean that a person's
*government* needs to have signed the Kyoto treaty for *that person* to
express an opinion on environmental issues, but that's an even more idiotic
stance than the one I chose to infer. In what rational world is a person
required to agree with their own government, or be limited in their opinions
by how their government acts?

Still, you fail to surprise. Idiotic claims and opinions, ad hominem
attacks, and a complete lack of contribution to the actual *aviation* nature
of this newsgroup are pretty much your calling cards.

(fup2poster, you are free to ignore it)


If you actually believed in following-up to the poster, you'd have sent your
flame in email in the first place. But then, I don't suppose I should be
surprised by your hypocritical behavior either.

Pete


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Old August 5th 06, 12:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article ,
Martin Hotze wrote:

They are polluting their future generations.


unless you don't at least sign the Kyoto treaty and act accordingly you
have no say, IMHO.


signing and ratifying a treaty doesn't mean much. What I'm interested in
is acting in an actual environmentally friendly manner, not whatever hoo-hoo
is popular

And it's easy for some p***ant-sized nothing country to pontificate when
its too small to matter wrt pollution.

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Old August 5th 06, 12:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_3_]
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:07:25 -0400, Morgans wrote:

They are polluting their future generations.


unless you don't at least sign the Kyoto treaty and act accordingly you
have no say, IMHO.


That is such a ridiculous connection, as to make you look foolish.

Global warming is but one aspect of pollution. Our EPA keeps so many forms
of pollution is check, that is not even thought of being prevented in China.

I have friends who travel to China on a regular basis, and what they tell me
is common place pollution is, well, appalling.
--
Jim in NC

 




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