Oshkosh '06 Redux

On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:07:25 -0400, Morgans wrote:

They are polluting their future generations.

unless you don't at least sign the Kyoto treaty and act accordingly you
have no say, IMHO.

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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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They are polluting their future generations.

unless you don't at least sign the Kyoto treaty and act accordingly you
have no say, IMHO.

Have you signed the Kyoto treaty? Somehow, I doubt it. So by your own
opinion, you have no say.

On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:13:10 -0700, Peter Duniho wrote:

unless you don't at least sign the Kyoto treaty and act accordingly you
have no say, IMHO.

[2]

Have you signed the Kyoto treaty?

yes. [1]

Somehow, I doubt it.

*bah*

So by your own
opinion, you have no say.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kyoto_Protocol_signatories
there are not so many red spots .... [1]


[1] to answer your question: Austria has signed on Sep 24th 1998 and
ratified on May 31st 2002.
[2] I have to correct myself: you (the USA) have signed, but not ratified:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol#Position_of_the_United_States


#m
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Martin Hotze wrote:

On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:13:10 -0700, Peter Duniho wrote:

unless you don't at least sign the Kyoto treaty and act accordingly you
have no say, IMHO.

[2]

Have you signed the Kyoto treaty?

yes. [1]

I'm guessing Peter meant you personally signed the treaty.

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Martin Hotze wrote:

They are polluting their future generations.

unless you don't at least sign the Kyoto treaty and act accordingly you
have no say, IMHO.

signing and ratifying a treaty doesn't mean much. What I'm interested in
is acting in an actual environmentally friendly manner, not whatever hoo-hoo
is popular

And it's easy for some p***ant-sized nothing country to pontificate when
its too small to matter wrt pollution.

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Bob Noel
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:07:25 -0400, Morgans wrote:

They are polluting their future generations.

unless you don't at least sign the Kyoto treaty and act accordingly you
have no say, IMHO.

That is such a ridiculous connection, as to make you look foolish.

Global warming is but one aspect of pollution. Our EPA keeps so many forms
of pollution is check, that is not even thought of being prevented in China.

I have friends who travel to China on a regular basis, and what they tell me
is common place pollution is, well, appalling.
--
Jim in NC

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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Have you signed the Kyoto treaty?

yes. [1]

You answered "yes", but your footnote discusses Austria's signing of the
treaty, not your own.

I ask again: have YOU signed the Kyoto treaty?

[...]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kyoto_Protocol_signatories
there are not so many red spots .... [1]

I looked at that list. I didn't see your name on it. In fact, the entire
list is of countries, not individual people.

So, again, by your own opinion, you have no say.

Pete

On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 10:07:43 -0700, Peter Duniho wrote:

I ask again: have YOU signed the Kyoto treaty?
[...]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kyoto_Protocol_signatories
there are not so many red spots .... [1]

I looked at that list. I didn't see your name on it. In fact, the entire
list is of countries, not individual people.

So, again, by your own opinion, you have no say.

Pete

*wow* .. stick a finger up your ass!
Idiot.

Yes, I started calling names. Do whatever you want.

EOD.

#m, *shakinghead*

(fup2poster, you are free to ignore it)
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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*wow* .. stick a finger up your ass!

Thanks for the offer, but you can keep your finger to yourself.

Idiot.

You insist that a person needs to have signed the Kyoto treaty to express an
opinion on environmental issues, you haven't signed the treaty yourself in
spite of claiming that you have, and *I* am the idiot?

I suppose I could interpret your statement to mean that a person's
*government* needs to have signed the Kyoto treaty for *that person* to
express an opinion on environmental issues, but that's an even more idiotic
stance than the one I chose to infer. In what rational world is a person
required to agree with their own government, or be limited in their opinions
by how their government acts?

Still, you fail to surprise. Idiotic claims and opinions, ad hominem
attacks, and a complete lack of contribution to the actual *aviation* nature
of this newsgroup are pretty much your calling cards.

(fup2poster, you are free to ignore it)

If you actually believed in following-up to the poster, you'd have sent your
flame in email in the first place. But then, I don't suppose I should be
surprised by your hypocritical behavior either.

Pete

I have friends who travel to China on a regular basis, and what they tell me
is common place pollution is, well, appalling.

True enough -- but at least they have jobs.

I was once again reminded of the horrendous situation in America's
industrial heartland this weekend, when I traveled to my hometown of
Racine, WI for my 30-year high school class reunion.

Once home to all kinds of heavy industry -- including what was once the
largest tractor plant in the WORLD -- Racine is now a nice,
no-longer-polluted city on the shores of no-longer-polluted Lake
Michigan -- and no one has a decent job. We over-flew the city's once
immense industrial infrastructure, and were stunned to find nothing but
large fields of grass. All the factories are simply gone -- and the
comfortable upper-middle class lifestyle that Racine once enjoyed is
gone, too.

Was this all due to the stingy anti-pollution laws our EPA imposed on
heavy industry in the 1960s and 70s? Of course not. But the rise of
EPA regulations and the decline of Racine's industrial infrastructure
is a straight-line correlation -- so be careful how proud you are of
our vaunted environmental laws. A LOT of hard-working folks have been
thrown into near-poverty at least partially because of them.

On the brighter side, Racine's citizens can now enjoy their beautiful
lakeshore, and are proud to show it off to all the Chicago-area
visitors who now provide them with slightly-above-minimum-wafe
employment in the tourist industry.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
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