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"Jim Fisher" wrote
"Terry Bolands" wrote "Jim Fisher" wrote But they can't get married and they can't fly low wing planes. That's just they way it is. It's not "just the way it is". You can feel it is wrong if you want, but it's not an innate truism that gay people can't get married. Ahh, but it is a truism if one accept the absolute fact that "marraige" has been recognized for thousands of years as a religous tenant. We aren't talking "unions" but marraige. That doesn't make it a truism at all. There are plenty of non-religious individuals who still believe in the institution of marriage. Civil servants can perform marriages. Governemental support of a marraige between a man and a woman and, thus, protection of the familial unit is supported and recognized beacause such support has historically contributed to to overall, long-term survival of governing bodies. Man+man and woman+woman does NOT a stable family make and does a government absolutely no good. You presenting this as a fact, but it is only an opinion. This makes it a truism, Terry. You don't have to like it but a rational person cannot deny it. I disagree. This is a debatable issue, and debatable by fully rational persons. Beyond this, doesn't the practice of same-sex marriages in some European countries prove that it isn't a truism? I think the line between the religious and civil role is fairly vague. I, personally, am in favor of same-sex marriage, but I think I could be in favor a situation in which marriage is soley a religious rite and civil unions are a, well, civil distinction. Marriage would only have a religious significance and civil unions would have legal/financial/etc significance. Any given religion coud define marriage however they liked, but any two people could get a civil union. To say that "Denying sexually aberrant citizens 'marital' status is akin to human rights abuses endured by black Americans" is an affront to my, and your, intelligence. Why call it sexually aberrant? I agree, that is an affront to your intelligence. "abeeeeeeerrrrrrrrant (br-nt, -br,-) adj. 1.. Deviating from the proper or expected course. 2.. Deviating from what is normal; untrue to type. Man+woman - Expected and even proper. Man+man - Untrue to type Gay+high wing: Expected and proper. Straight+low wing: Expected and proper Woman+Woman - I don't necessarily have a problem with this (marriage or adoptive rights-wise) but it is still aberrant. Until the gay population becomes a significant portion of the population, gay behavior will be considered "abnormal" and "aberrant." You don't have to like that fact but it is axiomatic. No, it is just different. Calling it aberrant puts the judgment of 'improper' on it. Your opinions aren't axiomatic, Jim. Most people in the US used to look on interracial marriage as aberrant. Opinions have changed...not axiomatic. tb |
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No, it is just different. Calling it aberrant puts the judgment
of 'improper' on it. Your opinions aren't axiomatic, Jim. Most people in the US used to look on interracial marriage as aberrant. Opinions have changed...not axiomatic. Succinct and to the point! Most excellent reply! -- -- =----- Good Flights! Cecil PP-ASEL-IA Student - CP-ASEL Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond! Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet" - Cecil Day Lewis - "Terry Bolands" wrote in message om... |
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