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Old August 8th 06, 12:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Ken Finney
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Default ZZZZ EAA SportPilot promotes ANN and Zoom


"Richard Isakson" wrote in message
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"Ken Finney" wrote ...

"Richard Isakson" wrote ...
Knowing Jim's previous problems with the truth, how can you believe
*anything* that's written in ANN?


Unless he is altering the audio files in the interviews...


Ken,

Most of what you find on ANN is merely company press releases that have
been
cut and pasted onto the website. If you went to the individual company
websites you would find that story and others there for the reading. I
suppose that's too much trouble so you let Jim decide which press releases
you read. Of course, you won't find negative articles about major
sponsors
but you will find falsified "news" about companies that refuse to play
Jim's
games. Part of the entertainment?

From time to time Jim will publish a flight review of an airplane. What
in
Jim's background makes you think he's qualified to judge airplane flight
characteristics? Or do you care? It's better to just let Jim form your
opinion? Or is it all entertainment?


As a newcomer to GA (and not yet a pilot), I look for information
everywhere. I truly believe there is no such thing as objectivity, that
every report to subjective to a point. You are right, ANN does decide what
to put on their website, and if I had the time, that I could surf looking
for press releases. Did you ever notice that magazines tend to publish a
review of a product, and within a page or two is an ad for that product?
Not random chance. The new Avweb look is dreadful, generalaviationnew never
updates much, ultraflightradio isn't bad, but the other sites I frequent are
even worse. ANN at least puts a lot of effort into their podcasts, I'll
concede that they are subjective, but I find it easier to listen to
something that is subjective than it is to listen to something that isn't
there in the first place.



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Old August 8th 06, 01:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Richard Isakson
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Default ZZZZ EAA SportPilot promotes ANN and Zoom

"Ken Finney" wrote ...

As a newcomer to GA (and not yet a pilot), I look for information
everywhere.


Ken,

This is Chuck Slusarczyk's nightmare come to life Since you're new to RAH
you don't have the perspective that came out of the Zoom Wars of several
years ago. At that time Jim was still posting here and you could judge from
his own words what Captain Zoom Campbell is really like in the darkness of
his soul.

Rich


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Old August 8th 06, 05:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Ken Finney
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Default ZZZZ EAA SportPilot promotes ANN and Zoom


"Richard Isakson" wrote in message
news
"Ken Finney" wrote ...

As a newcomer to GA (and not yet a pilot), I look for information
everywhere.


Ken,

This is Chuck Slusarczyk's nightmare come to life Since you're new to RAH
you don't have the perspective that came out of the Zoom Wars of several
years ago. At that time Jim was still posting here and you could judge
from
his own words what Captain Zoom Campbell is really like in the darkness of
his soul.


Jeez...

Can I at least say I like Pete Combs' voice?



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Old August 8th 06, 06:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Richard Isakson
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"Ken Finney" wrote ...

Can I at least say I like Pete Combs' voice?


Ken,

This has nothing to do with the staff at ANN. Most of them turn out to be
good people after Jim stabs them in the back and they quit ANN. Ron
Wanttaja used to be a big time Zoom supporter and part time employee.

Rich


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Old August 8th 06, 06:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Ken Finney
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Default ZZZZ EAA SportPilot promotes ANN and Zoom


"Richard Isakson" wrote in message
...
"Ken Finney" wrote ...

Can I at least say I like Pete Combs' voice?


Ken,

This has nothing to do with the staff at ANN. Most of them turn out to be
good people after Jim stabs them in the back and they quit ANN. Ron
Wanttaja used to be a big time Zoom supporter and part time employee.


I'm not a Zoom supporter, in fact, I have warned others about him. But at
least as far as ANN is concerned, to me it is like they are handing out free
coffee. If I want a cup of coffee and they are handing it out for free,
I'll take it.

If the cup has his name on it, I'll turn the cup so that my hand hides it!
;^)



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Old August 8th 06, 08:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Gig 601XL Builder
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Default ZZZZ EAA SportPilot promotes ANN and Zoom


"Ken Finney" wrote in message
...

"Richard Isakson" wrote in message
...
"Ken Finney" wrote ...

Can I at least say I like Pete Combs' voice?


Ken,

This has nothing to do with the staff at ANN. Most of them turn out to
be
good people after Jim stabs them in the back and they quit ANN. Ron
Wanttaja used to be a big time Zoom supporter and part time employee.


I'm not a Zoom supporter, in fact, I have warned others about him. But at
least as far as ANN is concerned, to me it is like they are handing out
free coffee. If I want a cup of coffee and they are handing it out for
free, I'll take it.

If the cup has his name on it, I'll turn the cup so that my hand hides it!
;^)


And Jim Jones was just handing out Kool-Aid.


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Old August 8th 06, 08:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Montblack[_1_]
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Default ZZZZ EAA SportPilot promotes ANN and Zoom

("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
And Jim Jones was just handing out Kool-Aid.



http://www.jelsert.com/products_flavoraid.asp
It was Flavor Aid ...not Kool-Aid

Small nit, unless you work for Kool-Aid.


Montblack :-)
"A single seat homebuilt Cessna low wing airplane...."
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Old August 8th 06, 08:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Bob Kuykendall
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Default ZZZZ EAA SportPilot promotes ANN and Zoom

Earlier, Gig 601XL Builder wrote:


And Jim Jones was just handing out Kool-Aid.


I'd tell my favorite Jonestown joke, but...
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....the punch line is too long.

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Old August 9th 06, 12:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
John Ousterhout[_1_]
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Default ZZZZ EAA SportPilot promotes ANN and Zoom

Richard Isakson wrote:

This has nothing to do with the staff at ANN. Most of them turn out to be
good people after Jim stabs them in the back and they quit ANN.


Sometime they quit and then get stabbed in the back. Actually I once
met a gruntled Former Zoom Employee. There is only one AFAIK.


Ron Wanttaja used to be a big time Zoom supporter and part time employee.


Ron did weigh about 30 pounds more back then :-)


- John Ousterhout -
host of Zoomland since 1998
RAH-15
http://www.ousterhout.net

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Old August 9th 06, 01:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Paul Tomblin
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Default ZZZZ EAA SportPilot promotes ANN and Zoom

In a previous article, John Ousterhout said:
Richard Isakson wrote:
This has nothing to do with the staff at ANN. Most of them turn out to be
good people after Jim stabs them in the back and they quit ANN.


Sometime they quit and then get stabbed in the back. Actually I once
met a gruntled Former Zoom Employee. There is only one AFAIK.
Ron Wanttaja used to be a big time Zoom supporter and part time employee.

Ron did weigh about 30 pounds more back then :-)


I want to be an "ilk".


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"Fly the airplane, then work the problem"
-- Rick Grant (quoting RCAF pilot training)
 




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