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Old November 7th 04, 12:19 AM
vincent p. norris
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I don't mind turbulence and have flown in some really nasty stuff.....

Turbulence usually signifies cumuloform clouds and clear, instead of
rime, ice. Clear ice, as you no doubt know, is much worse than rime.

I've picked up rime ice quite a few times, with no problem. But one
April day, years ago, near Williamsport, PA, (Great Lakes area) I
picked up so much clear ice in cumuloform clouds in about ten minutes
that my Chrokee 180 was down to 80 knots with full power and barely
holding altitude.

I could not have stayed in the air much longer. I had a Plan B,
because ceilings were 2000 with great viz below (typical post-cold
front wx) and I could divert to land at Williamsport.

vince norris
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Old November 7th 04, 03:04 AM
Matt Whiting
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vincent p. norris wrote:

I don't mind turbulence and have flown in some really nasty stuff.....



Turbulence usually signifies cumuloform clouds and clear, instead of
rime, ice. Clear ice, as you no doubt know, is much worse than rime.


Yes, except in the winter. Here in PA (I live just 50 miles north of
Williamsport) we often have strong turbulence in the winter with no
clouds at all. A clear day with 40 knots at say 6000 feet over the
mountains will make it very rought down low with no clouds at all.

Yes, clear ice is much worse than rime and I've only had one significant
encounter with it fortunately.

Matt

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Old November 8th 04, 12:31 AM
vincent p. norris
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Turbulence usually signifies cumuloform clouds and clear, instead of
rime, ice. Clear ice, as you no doubt know, is much worse than rime.


Yes, except in the winter. Here in PA (I live just 50 miles north of
Williamsport) we often have strong turbulence in the winter with no
clouds at all. A clear day with 40 knots at say 6000 feet over the
mountains will make it very rought down low with no clouds at all.


Yes, I've experienced that both winter and summer, over these
mountains, but I meant in IFR. And about 50 years ago, when I was in
the marines, I hit very strong turbulence at 10,000 in CAVU wx over
Florida, of all places! Not many ridges there.

vince
 




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