Hail damage - loss of value?

On 9 Aug 2006 16:23:00 -0700, wrote:

My Beech Sundowner sustained some hail damage a few weeks ago. About
15 planes on the ramp (IJD) were hit. I have a fist sized hole in one
wingtip and all the control surfaces are dimpled. There's a few on the
wing tops and fuse top, but you really have to look in the right light
to see them. Tail cone and stab tips also show light damage.

What's a real shame is this plane didn't have a mark on it. Had been
painted about 4 years ago and looked real sharp. But the reality is,
aside from the wingtip, you don't notice the dimpling, I'd say most of
it is light to moderate - perfectly airworthy.

My A&P is doing up an estimate now and is guessing about 15K, which
includes reskinning all the control surfaces. Insured hull value is
46K.

$15k probably is a good estimate.

$10k for a new paint job with all the bondo work to fill the hail
dents on the body and wings.

$5k to reskin the ailerons, flaps, and elevators is light, but not out
of the ballpark.

If the work is done correctly, the plane will look better out of the
shop than it did before the hail. This should help offset the value
of having reskinning entries in the logbook.

-Nathan

"Nathan Young" wrote in message
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On 9 Aug 2006 16:23:00 -0700, wrote:

My Beech Sundowner sustained some hail damage a few weeks ago. About
15 planes on the ramp (IJD) were hit. I have a fist sized hole in one
wingtip and all the control surfaces are dimpled. There's a few on the
wing tops and fuse top, but you really have to look in the right light
to see them. Tail cone and stab tips also show light damage.

What's a real shame is this plane didn't have a mark on it. Had been
painted about 4 years ago and looked real sharp. But the reality is,
aside from the wingtip, you don't notice the dimpling, I'd say most of
it is light to moderate - perfectly airworthy.

My A&P is doing up an estimate now and is guessing about 15K, which
includes reskinning all the control surfaces. Insured hull value is
46K.

$15k probably is a good estimate.

$10k for a new paint job with all the bondo work to fill the hail
dents on the body and wings.

Bondo???? I am not being sarcastic. Is this crap actually used in aircraft
repair?
10K sounds about right for decent paint job without sheet metal repair.

$5k to reskin the ailerons, flaps, and elevators is light, but not out
of the ballpark.

I had to reskin one aileron on a 182 and 5K to reskin, paint and balance all
control surfaces seems pretty inexpensive. My understanding from the
original post was that the $15K was for reskinning control surfaces which
seems about right.

If the work is done correctly, the plane will look better out of the
shop than it did before the hail. This should help offset the value
of having reskinning entries in the logbook.

-Nathan

Howard

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:03:54 GMT, "Howard Nelson"
wrote:


"Nathan Young" wrote in message
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On 9 Aug 2006 16:23:00 -0700, wrote:



$10k for a new paint job with all the bondo work to fill the hail
dents on the body and wings.

Bondo???? I am not being sarcastic. Is this crap actually used in aircraft
repair?
10K sounds about right for decent paint job without sheet metal repair.

Well, it probably is not automotive bondo, but there definitely is a a
sandable filler that paint shops use to cover hail damage and misc
dings. It must be an aviation grade bondo. :-)

I had to reskin one aileron on a 182 and 5K to reskin, paint and balance all
control surfaces seems pretty inexpensive. My understanding from the
original post was that the $15K was for reskinning control surfaces which
seems about right.

I had one of my ailerons reskinned (Cherokee), and recall it to be
around $1k.

The paint and balance would be done in the paint shop anyway, so that
cost should not be calculated into the reskin cost.

So, $5k is light, but I don't think outrageously low. $15k seems
substantially too high. However, I do not know how much a flap skin
or elevator skin costs. Also, the OP's aircraft was a Beech, so
perhaps the skins cost more, or the amount of manhours to replace is
higher than my Cherokee.

Go to Jenkins airport in Delaware. Aviation junkyard. You can get
what you need for about one tenth your estimates. Look up Joe Jenkins
in phone book.
..

Actually they quoted about $1- 1.2k to reskin each control surface.
The 15k was to include reskinning, balancing, repainting all control
surfaces, filling very minor stuff on wings and fuse, repainting tops
of wings and fuse, new wing tips and stab tips.

But that 15k quote was preliminary.

Some of the bigger Beechs like bonanzas and barons have magnesium skins, and
these can cost around $6-8,000. Also, 10k for a quality paint job including
stripping, body work, priming, and repainting sounds low. Sanding and
painting over the old paint is not a good way to go, even though it might
look OK.