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Clearly, none of this can serve to clear an aircraft within a TAA
right base, left base, or direct entry area at an altitude below the published IAP minimum altitude for that area. That depends on how you're defining "on a route". First of all, a TAA arrival sector doesn't really meet the definition of a route in the Pilot/Controller's glossary, so that seems an open question. But that really isn't the important question here, IMO. Earlier, I asked you that if I were flying a path that coincided with a feeder route or airway, but my clearance had included neither, then would I be in violation of 91.177 by flying at a lower altitude than published. You said that you could not envision such a thing. (I'm sure you're familiar with clearances such as "cleared via the radials of V-999..." Regardless, you seem to arguing that if you are at a point in space that is encompassed by *some* route, then that altitude is binding on you. I am very much open to this interpretation, but I believe you need to carry it to its logical conclusion. I can think of three possible interpretations of what it means to be "on a rroute" 1) As stated above, you are within the lateral confines geogrraphically that is encompassed by *some* route, 2) You are within the lateral AND VERTICAL confines that is encompassed by *some* route. (If you are below the minimum altitude, you're not on that route.) 3) You are assigned a route by name, What's your take? |
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Greg Esres wrote:
Regardless, you seem to arguing that if you are at a point in space that is encompassed by *some* route, then that altitude is binding on you. I am very much open to this interpretation, but I believe you need to carry it to its logical conclusion. From the TAA Order(8260.45A): "8.2.1 Straight-In Area. The arc boundary of the straight-in area is equivalent to a feeder fix. When crossing the boundary or when released by ATC within the straight-in area, an aircraft is expected to proceed direct to the IF(IAF)." So, since the FAA defines the arc boundary of the straight-in TAA area as the equivalent of a feeder fix, then the entire area inside that arc must be the equivalent of a feeder route. The TAA areas are published under FAR 97 as IAP altitudes. |
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