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Old August 17th 06, 05:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Morgans wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote
You have people who can not afford to pay for a family doctor, come to the
ER only when stuff is hitting the fan.


The fact remains that no one in the U.S. goes without medical necessary
care because of finances. The concern about millions of uninsured in
the U.S. (about 1/2 of which are in the country illegally) is not about
medical care, its about money. Everyone get medical care regardless of
their ability to pay in the U.S.
Mothers and children that do not have medical insurance get better
medical care than most insurance companies can provide as well.

Don't even get me started on malpractice insurance costs, or drug makers
advertising on TV and other places.


They need to advertise profitable products because they are subsidizing
the RND of drugs for the entire planet. The U.S. spends billions on
drug research. Once a new treatment is developed, the rest of the world
demands to receive it for production cost. If you think durg companies
are making money hand over fist, you are perfectly welcome to buy some
of their stock and share their profits. The fact is that the occasional
winfall from a new development comes after decades of pouring money
into research.


-Robert

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Old August 17th 06, 05:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Skylune[_1_]
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by "Robert M. Gary" Aug 17, 2006 at 09:02 AM


Morgans wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote
You have people who can not afford to pay for a family doctor, come to

the
ER only when stuff is hitting the fan.


The fact remains that no one in the U.S. goes without medical necessary
care because of finances. The concern about millions of uninsured in
the U.S. (about 1/2 of which are in the country illegally) is not about
medical care, its about money. Everyone get medical care regardless of
their ability to pay in the U.S.
Mothers and children that do not have medical insurance get better
medical care than most insurance companies can provide as well.."

Stick to piloting. Who pays for immunizations of the "mothers and
children in the US that do not have medical care?"

Some states have free clinics. In other states they do without.

We do subsidize GA in the USA however. Ah, priorities and politics.....



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Old August 17th 06, 05:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Skylune wrote:
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We do subsidize GA in the USA however. Ah, priorities and politics.....


I'd rather have aviation subsidized than some woman with ten kids on
welfare. Socialists suck.
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Old August 18th 06, 04:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I'd rather have aviation subsidized than some woman with ten kids on
welfare. Socialists suck.


Actually, NPR did a piece today on the 10th anniversary of welfare
reform. Even the socialists they interviewed had to grudgingly admit
that the reform program, passed by the Republicans in 1996 (and signed
into law by Bill Clinton) has been a resounding success, with welfare
roles down 60%.

Best of all, according to NPR being on "welfare" has been stigmatized
once again, even in the inner cities, where it had become a
multi-generational way of life. People are ashamed of being on the
public dole, and are working their way out of poverty, instead of
Jonesing when their checks were late.

These are all good things.

Childhood immunizations. There are no children turned away without
immunization anywhere in America. There *are*, however, millions of
criminally stupid parents who don't GET their children immunized.

Honestly, you have to pass a test to drive a car, but there is no
"minimum requirement" for reproducing. Imagine what a lovely world it
could be, if only some basic skills were required of every human before
they had children?
--
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Old August 18th 06, 04:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Best of all, according to NPR being on "welfare" has been stigmatized
once again, even in the inner cities, where it had become a
multi-generational way of life. People are ashamed of being on the
public dole, and are working their way out of poverty, instead of
Jonesing when their checks were late.


Wow, I really don't see that in my area of the country. AT ALL. What I
see are hundreds, even thousands of people who moved here after a
certain natural disaster and never went home. They're using public aid,
and don't seem to want that to change.

Childhood immunizations. There are no children turned away without
immunization anywhere in America. There *are*, however, millions of
criminally stupid parents who don't GET their children immunized.


Me personally, I wish I hadn't been immunized. I'm not sure, when I was
a child, that vaccines were safe. We certainly didn't know as much as
we do now. I'm all about risk awareness, and a baby can't choose, and
parents are blinded by, well, paranoia. My mother still thinks I'm
going to die every time I get in a plane, so would one really expect her
to research vaccines? Nope. Course, I don't remember bring up
immunizations, so I'll stop there.

Honestly, you have to pass a test to drive a car, but there is no
"minimum requirement" for reproducing. Imagine what a lovely world it
could be, if only some basic skills were required of every human before
they had children?


As someone smarter than many people in the world, I say yes. As a
libertarian, I unfortunately have to say no. Reproduce as you like,
just don't use my money to take care of the results.
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Old August 18th 06, 05:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("Emily" wrote)
As someone smarter than many people in the world, I say yes.



Many ...meaning 100?
Many ...meaning 10,000?
Many ...meaning 1,000,000?

Let's assign "many" the value ...650,000,000. g


Montblack
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Gonna cruise out of this city
Head down to the sea
Gonna shout out at the ocean
Hey it's me
And I feel like a number
Feel like a number
Feel like a stranger
A stranger in this land
I feel like a number
I'm not a number
I'm not a number
Dammit I'm a man
I said I'm a man

Song: Feel Like a Number
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Old August 18th 06, 01:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Montblack wrote:
("Emily" wrote)
As someone smarter than many people in the world, I say yes.



Many ...meaning 100?
Many ...meaning 10,000?
Many ...meaning 1,000,000?

Let's assign "many" the value ...650,000,000. g


Hey, it was just an observation I made after my daily commute.
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Old August 18th 06, 05:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Montblack[_1_]
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("Jay Honeck" wrote)
Honestly, you have to pass a test to drive a car, but there is no "minimum
requirement" for reproducing. Imagine what a lovely world it could be, if
only some basic skills were required of every human before they had
children?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
In this world, the Mensa Society guys would be gettin' it ...all the time!

"How can I be more 'popular' with the ladies?"
"Develop your spatial relationship problem solving skills, for starters."


Montblack
Hoping those E.Q. points put me over the top - "Hello triple digits."

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Old August 18th 06, 07:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck wrote:


Childhood immunizations. There are no children turned away without
immunization anywhere in America. There *are*, however, millions of
criminally stupid parents who don't GET their children immunized.


Explain that to the parents whose kids became
paralyzed/retarted/infected/died as a direct result of vaccines. I
know, the probability of that happening is low, but if it happens to
YOUR kid, it doesn't matter what that mathematical probability is. The
ones who actively choose not to immunize have taken steps to become
educated about the risks and benefits of vaccines than the vast
majority who blindly follow what the doc says. Try explaining to a
widow whose husband died in a small plane crash why everyone who
doesn't fly are criminally stupid, because flying is a vey safe
activity. As you know, flying is a calculated risk and a choice. You
can't force that upon everyone just because you and the FAA think it is
safe.

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Old August 18th 06, 11:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article .com,
"Andrew Sarangan" wrote:

Childhood immunizations. There are no children turned away without
immunization anywhere in America. There *are*, however, millions of
criminally stupid parents who don't GET their children immunized.


Explain that to the parents whose kids became
paralyzed/retarted/infected/died as a direct result of vaccines. I
know, the probability of that happening is low, but if it happens to
YOUR kid, it doesn't matter what that mathematical probability is. The
ones who actively choose not to immunize have taken steps to become
educated about the risks and benefits of vaccines than the vast
majority who blindly follow what the doc says.


are you serious? you think everyone who doesn't immunize has thought this
through?

Try explaining to a
widow whose husband died in a small plane crash why everyone who
doesn't fly are criminally stupid, because flying is a vey safe
activity. As you know, flying is a calculated risk and a choice. You
can't force that upon everyone just because you and the FAA think it is
safe.


cripes. The vaccine is to prevent a deadly disease. Flying doesn't
prevent death (except maybe being bored to death by a non-flying
"life"). To use that as an example or arguement is dumb.

--
Bob Noel
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lawyers will hate

 




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