Any traffic please advise

When I'm in the air approaching an
airport, I'm not listening for folks on the ground

Maybe you should be. They could be in the air by the time you arrive.
It's also a hint as to the runway in use.

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Jose wrote:

When I'm in the air approaching an
airport, I'm not listening for folks on the ground

Maybe you should be. They could be in the air by the time you arrive.
It's also a hint as to the runway in use.

Let's see. You claim transmissions on the ground don't contribute to
frequency clutter because those approaching the airport can't hear them,
and now you expect me to be listening for transmissions that I can't
hear?

When I'm approaching to enter the pattern, my primary concern is traffic
in the pattern or likewise approaching the pattern. Traffic on the
ground is irrelevant. If a guy in the pattern is using a different
runway than the guy on the ground, I follow the guy in the pattern. I
worry about the aircraft holding short of the runway when I'm on final.


JKG

You claim transmissions on the ground don't contribute to
frequency clutter because those approaching the airport can't hear them,
and now you expect me to be listening for transmissions that I can't
hear?

Transmissions from the air can be heard for a longer distance than
transmissions from the ground. However, they can be heard far enough
away to be useful.

When I'm approaching to enter the pattern, [... t]raffic on the
ground is irrelevant.

I disagree. Traffic on the ground could become traffic in the air by
the time you get there. A ground transmission is a heads-up, which is
better than a surprise.

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Jose wrote:

You claim transmissions on the ground don't contribute to frequency
clutter because those approaching the airport can't hear them, and now
you expect me to be listening for transmissions that I can't hear?


Transmissions from the air can be heard for a longer distance than
transmissions from the ground. However, they can be heard far enough
away to be useful.


That's funny how you think radio works. If I'm on the ground and make a
transmission that you cannot hear then by definition I will not hear
what you say.

That's funny how you think radio works. If I'm on the ground and make a transmission that you cannot hear then by definition I will not hear what you say.

Actually, radio doesn't work that way. Transmitters may have different
power, different sensitivity, and different antennas. Although symmetry
is a good first approximation, it is not guaranteed.

But aside from that, if I transmit from the air, I interfere with a much
broader area than if I transmit from the ground (with the same radio).
Therefore, if one is in the air, and the other is on the ground (and
symmetry prevails), it is quite likely that there will be many who can
receive only one side of the conversation.

If Elaine is flying seventy miles away, she may hear the airplane in the
air (and a bunch of others) but is not likely to hear the airplane on
the ground. Seventy miles away she doesn't need to hear either of them.
But she'll need to be closer to hear the one on the ground.

Jose
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