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("john smith" wrote)
BCT - Last Season: The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas (with: Sally Struthers) How come the guys are the only ones with their clothes off? http://www.bloomingtoncivictheatre.o.../fullmonty.htm If that's an issue, check out our next show! :-) Montyblack "How'd the audition go?" "Missed it by that much." |
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This is great stuff!!!! Wonderful post!
Cave Dweller, are you a pilot or just someone using this ng to publicize his strip joint? Good gracious. No, he's just someone who appreciates excellent creative writing. I'll bet there's some sort of government assistance for the humor-impaired, Matt. It's a legitimate disability, and I'll vouch for you. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Grumman-581 wrote in
: On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 03:20:19 GMT, Judah wrote: Hey! How come it's OK for Sailors to be pig/dogs, but not Pilots? Geez! What a double-standard! That's what we have Naval Aviators for... Naval Aviators get shore leave? |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
While not a "strip" club, there is an on-field brothel at Lida Junction Airport 15 miles east of Goldfield, Nevada. The 6,100' x 80' dirt airstrip is maintained by the Nevada DOT. Whoa, pardner -- now you've clearly stepped over the line, proving to Emily and Matt that we are all, indeed, pigs. Or dogs. Whatever. You got GPS coordinates for that air "strip"? Jay, I have zero problems with men I don't know going to strip clubs (or brothels, for that matter). What I have a problem with is them acting like it's totally ok. At least admit that it's piggish. (And no, I'm not a feminist) |
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![]() "Emily" wrote in message ... Jay Honeck wrote: While not a "strip" club, there is an on-field brothel at Lida Junction Airport 15 miles east of Goldfield, Nevada. The 6,100' x 80' dirt airstrip is maintained by the Nevada DOT. Whoa, pardner -- now you've clearly stepped over the line, proving to Emily and Matt that we are all, indeed, pigs. Or dogs. Whatever. You got GPS coordinates for that air "strip"? Jay, I have zero problems with men I don't know going to strip clubs (or brothels, for that matter). What I have a problem with is them acting like it's totally ok. At least admit that it's piggish. (And no, I'm not a feminist) I have to ask then why isn't it OK? |
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Jay, I have zero problems with men I don't know going to strip clubs (or
brothels, for that matter). What I have a problem with is them acting like it's totally ok. At least admit that it's piggish. Well, I KNOW I'm going to regret this, but....what is offensive (or "piggish") about men or women going to strip clubs? Or is it only offensive to you when men do it? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Jay, I have zero problems with men I don't know going to strip clubs (or brothels, for that matter). What I have a problem with is them acting like it's totally ok. At least admit that it's piggish. Well, I KNOW I'm going to regret this, but....what is offensive (or "piggish") about men or women going to strip clubs? Or is it only offensive to you when men do it? Nope, I wouldn't be caught dead at a strip club for women. I just think there's a time and a place for sexuality, and that's not it. As a fairly rabid libertarian, I don't care if you do it, but don't pretend it's anything other than what it really is. |
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"Emily" wrote in message
news ![]() Nope, I wouldn't be caught dead at a strip club for women. So you're a prude. Got it. Still, what is actually *wrong* with strip clubs? Or are you against any social viewing of performances that cater to our emotional or sensual sides? Sex happens to be one of humanity's strongest drives, so it's only natural that, along with other things that appeal to our mental pleasure receptors (sporting events, theater, musical performances, and even air shows), people might enjoy congregating and allowing someone else to stimulate the sexually oriented mental pleasure receptors. I will agree that, especially here in the US but also in a variety of other places around the world, society frowns upon public displays of sexuality. But certainly here in the US we have a pretty huge double-standard, both with respect to how sex is used (see practically any product marketing, for example) and with respect to how other forms of entertainment are accepted while sexually-oriented ones are not (see violent movies, or professional sports such as football or ice hockey, for example). Being a particularly strong emotional drive, I will certainly agree that one should be cautious about how one experiences sexual pleasure, whether directly or vicariously. But that argues for moderation, not abstinence. Perhaps it IS unhealthy to visit a strip club on a daily basis, whereas watching several basketball games a week is perfectly safe. But that doesn't mean strip clubs are inherently bad, or even in any other way significantly different from the basketball game...it just means they aren't something you'd want to make a central part of your lifestyle as a spectator. Not that I expect any of the above to resonate with your particular way of thinking. You've already exhibited your own rigid and opinionated view on the topic, and in my experience people who act like that aren't really ready to consider alternative viewpoints. They will reject them out of hand, without any serious consideration at all. But still...I offer it, just in case, and perhaps as something that you might reflect on in ten or twenty years, after you've matured a bit and are more open to considering that just because you may have had bad experiences in an area, or just because society tells you a certain area is a place for bad experiences, that doesn't mean that area is actually bad or that you need to follow society's own rigid rules for dealing with that area. I just think there's a time and a place for sexuality, and that's not it. It may not be the most refined way to express sexuality, but that's not the question. What's actually *wrong* with it? Just because you're uncomfortable with the idea isn't justification of the opinion that it's wrong. Personally, I think there's a time and place for beating the crap out of someone, and I don't think that a professional sporting event is the place to do it. But at the same time, I don't pass judgment on people who enjoy a good hockey game or boxing match. The atheletes aren't being forced to engage in events, and they offer something to the spectators that, while I don't understand, I don't object to, nor do I believe necessarily reflects poorly on those spectators in and of itself. Is it true that the particularly "piggish" men may be more likely to be found at strip clubs? Perhaps. But that doesn't mean that it's true that going to a strip club is "piggish", any more than it's true that going to a football game means you're a loud, obnoxious, drunk (even as many loud, obnoxious drunks seem to be attracted to sporting events). As a fairly rabid libertarian, I don't care if you do it, but don't pretend it's anything other than what it really is. A "fairly rabid libertarian" would not go around judging other people's actions, especially when they don't affect you, the way you are here. Saying you're a libertarian, and that you're not a feminist, does not actually make either of those claims true. Your other statements here contradict those claims quite effectively. Pete |
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Peter Duniho wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message news ![]() Nope, I wouldn't be caught dead at a strip club for women. So you're a prude. Got it. Still, what is actually *wrong* with strip clubs? Or are you against any social viewing of performances that cater to our emotional or sensual sides? Sex happens to be one of humanity's strongest drives, so it's only natural that, along with other things that appeal to our mental pleasure receptors (sporting events, theater, musical performances, and even air shows), people might enjoy congregating and allowing someone else to stimulate the sexually oriented mental pleasure receptors. I will agree that, especially here in the US but also in a variety of other places around the world, society frowns upon public displays of sexuality. But certainly here in the US we have a pretty huge double-standard, both with respect to how sex is used (see practically any product marketing, for example) and with respect to how other forms of entertainment are accepted while sexually-oriented ones are not (see violent movies, or professional sports such as football or ice hockey, for example). Being a particularly strong emotional drive, I will certainly agree that one should be cautious about how one experiences sexual pleasure, whether directly or vicariously. But that argues for moderation, not abstinence. Perhaps it IS unhealthy to visit a strip club on a daily basis, whereas watching several basketball games a week is perfectly safe. But that doesn't mean strip clubs are inherently bad, or even in any other way significantly different from the basketball game...it just means they aren't something you'd want to make a central part of your lifestyle as a spectator. Not that I expect any of the above to resonate with your particular way of thinking. You've already exhibited your own rigid and opinionated view on the topic, and in my experience people who act like that aren't really ready to consider alternative viewpoints. They will reject them out of hand, without any serious consideration at all. But still...I offer it, just in case, and perhaps as something that you might reflect on in ten or twenty years, after you've matured a bit and are more open to considering that just because you may have had bad experiences in an area, or just because society tells you a certain area is a place for bad experiences, that doesn't mean that area is actually bad or that you need to follow society's own rigid rules for dealing with that area. I just think there's a time and a place for sexuality, and that's not it. It may not be the most refined way to express sexuality, but that's not the question. What's actually *wrong* with it? Just because you're uncomfortable with the idea isn't justification of the opinion that it's wrong. Personally, I think there's a time and place for beating the crap out of someone, and I don't think that a professional sporting event is the place to do it. But at the same time, I don't pass judgment on people who enjoy a good hockey game or boxing match. The atheletes aren't being forced to engage in events, and they offer something to the spectators that, while I don't understand, I don't object to, nor do I believe necessarily reflects poorly on those spectators in and of itself. Is it true that the particularly "piggish" men may be more likely to be found at strip clubs? Perhaps. But that doesn't mean that it's true that going to a strip club is "piggish", any more than it's true that going to a football game means you're a loud, obnoxious, drunk (even as many loud, obnoxious drunks seem to be attracted to sporting events). As a fairly rabid libertarian, I don't care if you do it, but don't pretend it's anything other than what it really is. A "fairly rabid libertarian" would not go around judging other people's actions, especially when they don't affect you, the way you are here. Saying you're a libertarian, and that you're not a feminist, does not actually make either of those claims true. Your other statements here contradict those claims quite effectively. Pete Oh, please. I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand the difference - although it seems that you wasted a lot of time trying. And who's judging? Sex doesn't belong in public, plain and simple. Sorry if you can't understand that, but don't judge those of us who feel differently. |
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Here's a clue: if you think you've properly digested everything I wrote in
less than seven minutes, you're fooling yourself. As for the rest of your post: "Emily" wrote in message ... Oh, please. I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand the difference - although it seems that you wasted a lot of time trying. Someone like me? Please...you don't know me. You have no idea what "someone like me" is like. And "the difference" between what? You quoted my entire post...what "difference" is it to which you are referring, and what understanding of that difference do you have that I apparently will never have? Again, you are prominently displaying your knee-jerk, narrow-minded way of thinking. You already know everything you need to know, so there's no point in you actually reading anything anyone else might have to write. And who's judging? You are. When you call someone a "pig" or say they are "piggish", you are judging. Funny that you feel you can malign people left and right and still think you aren't judging. Sex doesn't belong in public, plain and simple. Define "public". I might agree that we're better off not allowing sex to be allowed in any random public area. But strip clubs are not any random public area. They are a specific place, set aside for the express purpose of a display of nudity (and in most cases, no sex at all), and are only "public" in the sense that the general public is usually allowed in. In that sense of the word "public", why doesn't sex belong in public? Sorry if you can't understand that, but don't judge those of us who feel differently. I'm judging you as a narrow-minded idiot because that's how you act here. Your opinion about strip clubs has nothing to do with it. It's the way you express your opinion. You haven't once made ANY attempt to justify the opinion. You just say "that's how it is, and that's that". That's the very DEFINITION of being a narrow-minded idiot. If you had said instead "strip clubs are perfectly fine, that's how it is, and that's that", I would still be calling you a narrow-minded idiot. You'd just be a narrow-minded idiot who agrees with me instead of who disagrees with me. I can, and have, put into words some aspects of WHY I hold the opinion that I have. You have not. Therein lies the difference, and it's why I cannot respect your opinion, regardless of how strongly you may hold it. Pete |
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