Fun canyon flying

"Newps" wrote in message
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That's funny, Fort Collins is about as far from rural as you're gonna
get. It's just a 'burb of Denver.

Only someone from Montana would call a city over an hour's drive from
another city, and with plenty of open space between, a "suburb" of that
other city.

That said, certainly there's nothing about Fort Collins that supports the
"you have to learn to drive a tractor" comment. I find it hard to believe
that anyone who actually knew anything about Fort Collins would say that,
never mind everyone. My impression of Fort Collins, from my several visits
there, is that it's part college town, part tech industry town, with a bit
of left-over frontier West mentality. Mostly, it's pretty much like any
other medium-sized city I've seen, and there's definitely not a lot of
places to drive a tractor, not in the city anyway.

Pete

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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The NTSB review specifically found that taking off or
landing does not legalize flight under a bridge.

So when is it legal to fly under a bridge?

It is never legal, as far as I know. If you believe Robert's post, it may
be legal in a specific FSDO district if the bridge is high enough. But I'm
skeptical of how likely that really is, as a general guideline.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Newps" wrote in message
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That's funny, Fort Collins is about as far from rural as you're gonna
get. It's just a 'burb of Denver.

Only someone from Montana would call a city over an hour's drive from
another city, and with plenty of open space between, a "suburb" of that
other city.

Actually people from Montana wouldn't know what a "suburb" is and would call
this "the next town/city" :-) Yes, Montana does have "cities", just
depends on your definition... :-) as Great Falls is not "rural" but it
isn't an "urban metropolis" either (50,000 people in the middle of no
where)...

Wade Hasbrouck
(although I currently live in Seattle, grew up in Great Falls, MT)

P.S. I realize you weren't intentionally making fun of people from Montana
or Montana itself... :-), but I just couldn't resist either... :-)

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:06:29 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote in
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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The NTSB review specifically found that taking off or
landing does not legalize flight under a bridge.

So when is it legal to fly under a bridge?

It is never legal, as far as I know. If you believe Robert's post, it may
be legal in a specific FSDO district if the bridge is high enough. But I'm
skeptical of how likely that really is, as a general guideline.


Implicit in this warning is the possibility of helos flying under the
Vincent Thomas Bridge in Los Angeles Harbor:

http://airports.pilotage.com/events/socal/soca0698.htm
Helicopter Pilots Stay out from under the Bridge!

Helicopter pilots are cautioned to stay out from under the Vincent
Thomas Bridge. New construction on the bridge requires cables that
hang down to the water. These cables move from time to time and
can be difficult to see.

On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:49:59 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:06:29 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote in
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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The NTSB review specifically found that taking off or
landing does not legalize flight under a bridge.

So when is it legal to fly under a bridge?

It is never legal, as far as I know. If you believe Robert's post, it may
be legal in a specific FSDO district if the bridge is high enough. But I'm
skeptical of how likely that really is, as a general guideline.


Implicit in this warning is the possibility of helos flying under the
Vincent Thomas Bridge in Los Angeles Harbor:

http://airports.pilotage.com/events/socal/soca0698.htm
Helicopter Pilots Stay out from under the Bridge!

Helicopter pilots are cautioned to stay out from under the Vincent
Thomas Bridge. New construction on the bridge requires cables that
hang down to the water. These cables move from time to time and
can be difficult to see.


Don't let the guy in here that has hit 30 cables see that.

Best
Daveb

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

Implicit in this warning is the possibility of helos flying under the
Vincent Thomas Bridge in Los Angeles Harbor:

http://airports.pilotage.com/events/socal/soca0698.htm
Helicopter Pilots Stay out from under the Bridge!

Helicopter pilots are cautioned to stay out from under the Vincent
Thomas Bridge. New construction on the bridge requires cables that
hang down to the water. These cables move from time to time and
can be difficult to see.

I've seen helicopters flying under the Golden Gate Bridge several
times. On a flight a few weeks ago, my friend/passenger got some
great shots of one going under and then over the bridge with his
Canon 30D and mega-zoom lens, but he hasn't posted them to his
website yet.

I guess this is another area where helicopters have different
rules...

John
--
John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:34:38 -0700, "Wade Hasbrouck"
wrote:
Actually people from Montana wouldn't know what a "suburb" is and would call
this "the next town/city" :-) Yes, Montana does have "cities", just
depends on your definition... :-) as Great Falls is not "rural" but it
isn't an "urban metropolis" either (50,000 people in the middle of no
where)...

Kind of an "if you have a Wal-Mart, you're at least a town, if you
have a Starbucks, you're a city" ???

"John Clear" wrote in message
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[...]
I guess this is another area where helicopters have different
rules...

Yup. 91.119(d) specifically excludes helicopters from the "stay away from
stuff" portions, (b) and (c).

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:34:38 -0700, "Wade Hasbrouck"
wrote:
Actually people from Montana wouldn't know what a "suburb" is and would
call
this "the next town/city" :-) Yes, Montana does have "cities", just
depends on your definition... :-) as Great Falls is not "rural" but it
isn't an "urban metropolis" either (50,000 people in the middle of no
where)...

Kind of an "if you have a Wal-Mart, you're at least a town, if you
have a Starbucks, you're a city" ???

Same thing if you call your saloons "night clubs".

Matt Barrow wrote:

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:34:38 -0700, "Wade Hasbrouck"
wrote:

Actually people from Montana wouldn't know what a "suburb" is and would
call
this "the next town/city" :-) Yes, Montana does have "cities", just
depends on your definition... :-) as Great Falls is not "rural" but it
isn't an "urban metropolis" either (50,000 people in the middle of no
where)...

Kind of an "if you have a Wal-Mart, you're at least a town, if you
have a Starbucks, you're a city" ???


Same thing if you call your saloons "night clubs".

Does calling your strip joints art galleries count? :-)

Matt