$640.00 to fill the tanks...

For static page markup, [html] was acceptable, but people kept
trying to beat it into something that it wasn't...

Yep. But the kludge works "well enough", so HTML is not being replaced.

Interestingly, web based "news readers" are becoming popular
replacements for real news clients, but RSS feeds (the "new thing") are
becoming popular too. If RSS had come first, even odds there would be
web based audio feeds that would be replacing the "old fashioned" RSS stuff.

Gag me with a TK50 !!!

Ok. (I've never done Pascal so I really have no opinion on it).

Jose
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 03:35:03 GMT, Jose
wrote:
Yep. But the kludge works "well enough", so HTML is not being replaced.

And for static web pages, it's acceptable... Dynamic web pages (i.e.
web applications) on the other hand are definitely a kludge... The
concept of having server side and client side code in the same file is
ugly from a design standpoint... I've written web apps before
utilizing Javascript, ASPs, and database access, so I do know
*something* about it and my informed opinion is that it is an ugly
design... Hell, it makes the old spaghetti code FORTRAN even look
good... In some ways, HTML is a progression from the old nroff and
troff text formatting... When they started trying to make it into
something that you could 'program' with is where they made their
mistake... On the other hand, Postscript is a real programming
language... A bit odd and more difficult to understand that your
typical Algol derived procedure oriented language, but a true
programming language none the less... Kind of like LISP, but
*different*... grin

Interestingly, web based "news readers" are becoming popular
replacements for real news clients, but RSS feeds (the "new thing") are
becoming popular too. If RSS had come first, even odds there would be
web based audio feeds that would be replacing the "old fashioned" RSS
stuff.

Depends upon what you are calling "news readers"... Do you mean "news"
as in USENET or "news" as in current events? RSS from what I
understand is the latter... I have never read anything about it doing
USENET... With respect to "news" as in current events, I don't have a
problem with it being in standard HTML since the end result is that
I'm using the computer as a replacment for some printed media...
Allowing the source of the information to have control over the actual
formatting / display of the information is not really objectionable to
me...

Ok. (I've never done Pascal so I really have no opinion on it).

It's better than BASIC, but that's about it... Personally, I don't
like a language that is too strongly typed... I like the capability of
being able to refer to a particular area of memory by various types...
I like the fact that with 'C', I will know exactly how my data is laid
out in memory... One thing that I used to tell students who were
considering taking a 'C' course was that if they couldn't handle
pointers, they should stay away from 'C'... 'C' does not just allow
you to shoot yourself in the foot... It provides you with a fully
automatic 12-gauge, rests the end of the barrel on your foot, and only
allows you to pick it up by the trigger which just so happens to have
a 1 gram trigger pull... It's difficult to find a language that is
more efficient yet still allows you high level language structures...

And for static web pages, it's acceptable.

Alas, there are precious few static web pages nowadays - it seems people
want to show off how cool they are by stuffing the pipe. I've seen
flash used to encapsulate a static image which held nothing but text. Feh.

Depends upon what you are calling "news readers"...
Do you mean "news" as in USENET...?

Yes. Those kinds of readers are specially designed for message boards.

RSS is similar in that it is especially designed for media (podcasting
and the like). Whatever came last squeezes out whatever came first,
irrespective of quality or appropriateness. So, HTML squoze
newsreaders, and RSS is squeezing HTML (et al).

Allowing the source of the information to have control over the actual
formatting / display of the information is not really objectionable to
me...

It's very objectionable to me, since it ignores the capabilities (or
lack of them) and permissions (or lack of them) of the device upon which
the information is to be displayed, and the wishes of the one who will
actually use the information.

and only allows you to pick it up by the trigger

LOL!

Jose
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