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Old August 28th 06, 04:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Alex Pitschmann wrote:
I can see how they got disoriented in the dark (my guess)



Dark at 38N at 7am in Aug??

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Old August 28th 06, 05:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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john smith wrote:

Dark at 38N at 7am in Aug??


Yes, LEX is on the western edge of the Eastern Time Zone.
Sunrise is just before 7 AM. The aircraft departed about 6:04 AM.



I checked out a couple of news sites and they do mention the time that
you do, but I bet I saw Fox and Sky News last evening and they both
mentioned 7 am!

Fwiw, at 6.15 am, which is when I leave for work, my C240's auto
headlights don't come on. That must translate into adequate enough
daylight at that time of the day here in Dubai!

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Old August 28th 06, 07:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Fwiw, at 6.15 am, which is when I leave for work, my C240's auto
headlights don't come on. That must translate into adequate enough
daylight at that time of the day here in Dubai!


If your lights don't come on at 0615, then it is surely light enough. But
bear this in mind: Lexington, KY, is near the western edge of Time Zone R,
known as Eastern (Daylight) Time. Being at the western edge, the entire
span of daylight will be skewed a bit later than nominal for that time zone.
Dubai, on the other hand, is at the extreme eastern side of Time Zone C,
Middle East Time. In point of fact, Dubai is geographically located well
into Time Zone D, although it appears the entire UAE uses the UTC +3 of Zone
C. Being at the extreme eastern edge of your zone, your daylight span will
be substantially skewed toward the earlier range of the clock.

Consequently, sunrise on August 27 occurred at 0457 in Dubai, but 0704 in
Lexington, KY.


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Old August 28th 06, 02:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:23:04 GMT, john smith wrote in
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In article . com,
wrote:

Alex Pitschmann wrote:
I can see how they got disoriented in the dark (my guess)


Dark at 38N at 7am in Aug??


Yes, LEX is on the western edge of the Eastern Time Zone.
Sunrise is just before 7 AM. The aircraft departed about 6:04 AM.


It would seem that is correct:

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html
U.S. Naval Observatory
Astronomical Applications Department


Sun and Moon Data for One Day
The following information is provided for Lexington, Fayette
County, Kentucky (longitude W84.5, latitude N38.1):

Sunday
27 August 2006 Eastern Daylight Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:36 a.m.
Sunrise 7:03 a.m.
Sun transit 1:39 p.m.
Sunset 8:15 p.m.
End civil twilight 8:42 p.m.

MOON
Moonset 9:33 p.m. on preceding day
Moonrise 10:34 a.m.
Moon transit 4:19 p.m.
Moonset 9:54 p.m.
Moonrise 11:34 a.m. on following day


Phase of the Moon on 27 August: waxing crescent with 13% of the
Moon's visible disk illuminated.

New Moon on 23 August 2006 at 3:10 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time.


 




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