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Old August 30th 06, 09:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Al[_1_]
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"Guy Elden Jr" wrote in message
oups.com...
This is just one of those "little extras" that every pilot should include
in
that last second look around the pit before opening the throttle. With
me; I
always made it a point to hestiate for a few seconds for a line up
re-check.


Yep... lights, camera, action, where the action - check dg / line it
up with runway numbers. Before now, I'll admit, all I did was reset the
dg to the runway heading, but from now on, I'll be paying much closer
attention to the variance. Too much means something ain't right.

--
Guy

From Lr24 training.
Remember: Aim, then Fire...

Al G


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Old August 28th 06, 10:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ross Richardson[_2_]
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Dudley Henriques wrote:

This is just one of those "little extras" that every pilot should include in
that last second look around the pit before opening the throttle. With me; I
always made it a point to hestiate for a few seconds for a line up re-check.
Dudley Henriques

"Christopher Brian Colohan" wrote in message
. ..


"Dudley Henriques" writes:


It can happen and has happened and will happen again as long as pilots
don't
remember to physically check the runway heading by glancing at the DG or
HSI, or even the magnetic compass EVERY time they line up for takeoff.
This
should be an automatic reflex action for a pilot, especially at busy
airports where runways are 30 degrees or less apart in direction.


All of my training so far has been at an airport with only one runway
(KPAO). Thank you for pointing this out -- checking the runway
direction has not been on my checklist before now...

Chris






Be sure you set the DG to the magnetic compass before you turn onto the
runway and not do like some pilots I have seen. Line up on the runway
and set the compass.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI


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Old August 28th 06, 11:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Ross Richardson wrote:

Dudley Henriques wrote:

This is just one of those "little extras" that every pilot should include in
that last second look around the pit before opening the throttle. With me; I
always made it a point to hestiate for a few seconds for a line up re-check.
Dudley Henriques

"Christopher Brian Colohan" wrote in message
...


"Dudley Henriques" writes:


It can happen and has happened and will happen again as long as pilots
don't
remember to physically check the runway heading by glancing at the DG or
HSI, or even the magnetic compass EVERY time they line up for takeoff.
This
should be an automatic reflex action for a pilot, especially at busy
airports where runways are 30 degrees or less apart in direction.


All of my training so far has been at an airport with only one runway
(KPAO). Thank you for pointing this out -- checking the runway
direction has not been on my checklist before now...

Chris






Be sure you set the DG to the magnetic compass before you turn onto the
runway and not do like some pilots I have seen. Line up on the runway
and set the compass.


I set mine before I begin taxiing and then check it on the runway right
before launch. It is very helpful to have a correctly set DG when
taxiing, especially at unfamiliar airports.

Matt
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Old August 29th 06, 02:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ross Richardson" wrote

Ross, check your settings. Is it possible that you are not posting with
plain text?
--
Jim in NC

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Old August 29th 06, 01:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ross Richardson[_2_]
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Morgans wrote:
"Ross Richardson" wrote

Ross, check your settings. Is it possible that you are not posting with
plain text?


Did I do something wrong? I unclicked "send in HTML". My computer forgot
who I was a week ago Monday and I have been resetting everything back.
Some net etiquette that I was unaware of?

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI
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Old August 29th 06, 02:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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Some net etiquette that I was unaware of?

If your computer is messing with your settings, you get a pass while you
figure it out and put the OS in its place. Posting should be in plain
text. HTML foists too much crap on users. But you are already aware of
this, as you unclicked "send in HTML". Maybe the OS overruled you again?

Jose
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Old August 30th 06, 01:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_4_]
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"Ross Richardson" wrote in message
...
Morgans wrote:
"Ross Richardson" wrote

Ross, check your settings. Is it possible that you are not posting with
plain text?


Did I do something wrong? I unclicked "send in HTML". My computer forgot
who I was a week ago Monday and I have been resetting everything back.
Some net etiquette that I was unaware of?


Dunno. It was in plain text, this time.

Carry on! g
--
Jim in NC

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Old August 29th 06, 06:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Christopher Brian Colohan
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Ross Richardson writes:
Be sure you set the DG to the magnetic compass before you turn onto the
runway and not do like some pilots I have seen. Line up on the runway
and set the compass.


DG? Oh yeah, directional gyro. Don't have one of those in any of the
Citabrias I have been learning to fly in... Just a compass. :-)

Chris
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Old August 30th 06, 07:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Grumman-581[_1_]
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:25:35 -0500, Ross Richardson
wrote:
Be sure you set the DG to the magnetic compass before you turn onto the
runway and not do like some pilots I have seen. Line up on the runway
and set the compass.


Hmmm... Your compass must be a different model than mine... I don't
think that there is any mechanism to readily adjust mine prior to
takeoff...
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Old August 28th 06, 11:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Dudley Henriques wrote:

This is just one of those "little extras" that every pilot should include in
that last second look around the pit before opening the throttle. With me; I
always made it a point to hestiate for a few seconds for a line up re-check.


Same here. I wait just long enough to let the compass settle, check it
against the DG and against the runway I was cleared to, record the
takeoff time and turn the transponder from standby to ALT. Only takes a
few seconds once you get the procedure down.

I also hope everyone is checking their power indications, vacuum,
alternator, etc. as they commence the takeoff roll, especially if
launching into IMC.

Matt
 




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