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Old August 29th 06, 07:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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Default CRJ crash at KLEX:


"raduray" wrote in message
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What no one has mentioned in this thread is the report that the lights
for 26 were not on. That visual cue screams that you're on the wrong
runway, particularly pre-dawn. If that's indeed the case, it would
speak to negligence. I wonder what they were doing/thinking.


It wasn't pre-dawn. The preliminary NTSB data online gives the time of the
incident as 6:07 EDT. An online calculator gives the time of sunrise at
KLEX on that date as 6:04:37 AM.


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Old August 29th 06, 08:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Theune
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"raduray" wrote in message
oups.com...
What no one has mentioned in this thread is the report that the lights
for 26 were not on. That visual cue screams that you're on the wrong
runway, particularly pre-dawn. If that's indeed the case, it would
speak to negligence. I wonder what they were doing/thinking.


It wasn't pre-dawn. The preliminary NTSB data online gives the time of the
incident as 6:07 EDT. An online calculator gives the time of sunrise at
KLEX on that date as 6:04:37 AM.


I just checked with web site for the Weather Channel and it shows
sunrise at being at 7:06 today. Was your on line calculator using GMT?
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Old August 29th 06, 10:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"John Theune" wrote in message
news:9y0Jg.38536$NF3.7763@trnddc05...

I just checked with web site for the Weather Channel and it shows sunrise
at being at 7:06 today. Was your on line calculator using GMT?


It gave the time as "6:04:37 AM".


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Old August 29th 06, 08:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Lee
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Default CRJ crash at KLEX:

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:


"raduray" wrote in message
roups.com...

What no one has mentioned in this thread is the report that the lights
for 26 were not on. That visual cue screams that you're on the wrong
runway, particularly pre-dawn. If that's indeed the case, it would
speak to negligence. I wonder what they were doing/thinking.


It wasn't pre-dawn. The preliminary NTSB data online gives the time of the
incident as 6:07 EDT. An online calculator gives the time of sunrise at
KLEX on that date as 6:04:37 AM.


My sunrise program fives 706 AM for today and Airnav.com gives 7:07
AM. Verify time zone. (UTC-4)

Ron Lee



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Old August 29th 06, 10:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"Ron Lee" wrote in message
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My sunrise program fives 706 AM for today and Airnav.com gives 7:07
AM. Verify time zone. (UTC-4)


It doesn't request the time zone as input or provide it in the output. I
believe the only input was the date and the location. I used KLEX as the
location and it provided a time of 6:04:37 AM as the time of sunrise.


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Old August 29th 06, 10:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Stefan
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Default CRJ crash at KLEX:

Steven P. McNicoll schrieb:

I used KLEX as the
location and it provided a time of 6:04:37 AM as the time of sunrise.


The program probably doesn't honour daylight saving time.
http://www.gaisma.com/en/location/le...-kentucky.html
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Old August 29th 06, 10:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"Stefan" wrote in message
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The program probably doesn't honour daylight saving time.


Apparently, and thus not particularly useful.


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Old August 30th 06, 12:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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This the best http://aa.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/aa_pap.pl



"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote
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| "Stefan" wrote in message
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| The program probably doesn't honour daylight saving
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| Apparently, and thus not particularly useful.
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Old August 30th 06, 12:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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This will work better, http://aa.usno.navy.mil/ the link
below was to a results page and needs an input.



"Jim Macklin" wrote
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Old August 30th 06, 12:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default CRJ crash at KLEX:

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html



U.S. Naval Observatory
Astronomical Applications Department


Sun and Moon Data for One Day
The following information is provided for Lexington, Fayette
County, Kentucky (longitude W84.5, latitude N38.1):

Sunday
27 August 2006 Eastern Daylight Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:36 a.m.
Sunrise 7:03 a.m.
Sun transit 1:39 p.m.
Sunset 8:15 p.m.
End civil twilight 8:42 p.m.

MOON
Moonset 9:33 p.m. on preceding
day
Moonrise 10:34 a.m.
Moon transit 4:19 p.m.
Moonset 9:54 p.m.
Moonrise 11:34 a.m. on following
day

Phase of the Moon on 27 August: waxing crescent with 13%
of the Moon's visible disk illuminated.

New Moon on 23 August 2006 at 3:10 p.m. Eastern Daylight
Time.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Census Bureau map of Lexington area





--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote
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nk.net...
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| "Ron Lee" wrote in message
| ...
|
| My sunrise program fives 706 AM for today and Airnav.com
gives 7:07
| AM. Verify time zone. (UTC-4)
|
|
| It doesn't request the time zone as input or provide it in
the output. I
| believe the only input was the date and the location. I
used KLEX as the
| location and it provided a time of 6:04:37 AM as the time
of sunrise.
|
|


 




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