Can GPS be *too* accurate? Do I need some XTE??

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In the "good old" VOR days, it must have been pretty difficult to fly
down
the centerline of an airway (or of any direct track).

...snip...

As for being difficult to fly the VOR, it was/is no more difficult
than flying a compass heading and holding it.....which many pilots
seem unable to do anymore. They would prefer that electronic gadgets
do their flying for them and no thoughts as to what happens when the
electrodes take a vacation.


Never having flown a VOR course myself... I still doubt very much that any
two pilots (OR auto-pilots), flying reciprocal headings between two VORs,
would both be able to *simultaneously* hold a course to within 10 feet of
the centre-line for the whole course, considering the receiver errors and
that the VOR radial-signal *itself* probably varies more than that.

I could be wrong.
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Icebound
If you have never flown a VOR course, where in hell do you fly? And,
if you have never flown a VOR course, what do you know about them or
what their capabilities are? Part of the PTS for every US rating
involves VOR.
Beyond that, let me ask if you are a licensed pilot? Hmmm, well you
may be in another country, perhaps 3rd world without VOR but even
then, of the 26 countries I've worked in, all had VOR coverage of some
kind. So again, where do you fly?
Ol Shy & Bashful

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"SelwayKid" wrote in message
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"Icebound" wrote in message
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In the "good old" VOR days, it must have been pretty difficult to fly
down
the centerline of an airway (or of any direct track).

...snip...

As for being difficult to fly the VOR, it was/is no more difficult
than flying a compass heading and holding it.....which many pilots
seem unable to do anymore. They would prefer that electronic gadgets
do their flying for them and no thoughts as to what happens when the
electrodes take a vacation.


Never having flown a VOR course myself... ...snip...

I could be wrong.



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Icebound
If you have never flown a VOR course, where in hell do you fly? .... So
again, where do you fly?

Hey, I never said that I flew at all. yet. I don't think that disqualifies
me from trying to clarify some stuff for the day that I might :-)

Inspire me. Educate me. Convince me that a VOR course can be held to the
same 10 metre tolerance over 100 NM miles, that it appears a GPS course can.
(Without the GPS in the cockpit for reference, of course.)

If you have never flown a VOR course, where in hell do you fly?

I am a certificated American pilot, and have been for six years. I
have never flown a VOR course and never expect to. I fly in New
Hampshire, Maine, and Massachusetts. I have about 350 hours.

(Early on, I owned a Sporty's handheld with nav feature. I once tuned
it to the Pease VOR just to see how it worked, and never used the
feature again. After not very long, I got rid of the Sporty's for a
Yaseu/Vertex without the nav feature, and have never regretted it. If
I need an electronic aid, I use the GPS. Indeed, if it's comfortable
to do so, I avoid VORs on the theory that they must be airplane
magnets. To a lesser extent, the same must be true of VOR courses,
depending on one's distance from the VOR. Who needs places where other
airplanes congregate?)


all the best -- Dan Ford
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Cub Driver ) wrote:

I am a certificated American pilot, and have been for six years. I
have never flown a VOR course and never expect to. I fly in New
Hampshire, Maine, and Massachusetts. I have about 350 hours.

Is this VFR or IFR?

I mainly file and fly IFR in the Northeast US and I have learned that if
I am flying to or from Boston or anywhere near NYC, I must file and at
least start flying airways. The controllers will offer direct where
possible, but the volume of traffic during the peak hours often prevents
this.

In my experience, there have been a few times where the only way I could
get off the airways was to cancel IFR, weather depending.

--
Peter