Avgas Coming Down?

I think they should all be nationalized.


A responsible oil company should charge you as much as you are willing
to pay.

Great idea. The government never tries to get extra money and is so much
more efficient. Add to that there would be no competition and we would see
gas prices to the point that they'd have to put in pumps that were could for
$9.99 which would give them an excuse to increase the price some more.


"OtisWinslow" wrote in message
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I think they should all be nationalized.


A responsible oil company should charge you as much as you are willing
to pay.

The "oil companies" do not control the price of crude oil,
it is a world market product, sold at auction. Those buyers
may be refiners "big oil" who actually make gasoline and jet
fuel, or more often they are speculators who sell on the
spot market. The price of crude goes up and down with every
pipeline attack, revolution in the Congo, terrorist threat.
Like the estate auction, emotion drives the price.
The price of gasoline depends on the supply and cost of
crude, the available refining capacity, the means of
delivery [truck, pipeline, train, ship/barge], the demand,
the weather report and EPA/DOT rules.

The USA needs to build refineries, drill where ever oil is
located, or go back to walking and riding animals. Nuclear
power for cars is a long way away. What other power source
is there?

There is plenty of oil in the ground, oil is not a finite
material, it is produced by the Earth. The "shortage" is
caused by government rules, {can't drill in ANWAR, can't
drill off-shore, can't drill if the rig can be seen}, that
refinery smells bad [they do, but so does a hog or chicken
farm] so we haven't built a totally new refinery in decades
[some have been modernized or expanded].

Adjusted for inflation, gasoline is cheaper today than it
was fifty years ago.

Inflation is caused by the government, they control the
money supply.



"OtisWinslow" wrote in message
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|I think they should all be nationalized.
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| A responsible oil company should charge you as much as
you are willing
| to pay.
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There is plenty of oil in the ground, oil is not a finite
material, it is produced by the Earth.

The rate of production (by the earth) is much less than the rate of
consumption. It's not like growing trees, it's more like harvesting
dinosaurs.

Jose
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("Jose" wrote)
The rate of production (by the earth) is much less than the rate of
consumption. It's not like growing trees, it's more like harvesting
dinosaurs.


Some would disagree:

http://www.enviroliteracy.org/article.php/1130.html
"Abiotic Theory of Oil Formation"

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.07/gold_pr.html
"Fuel's Paradise"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/038...lance&n=283155
"The Deep Hot Biosphere" - Thomas Gold


Montblack-gold

Some would disagree...

The three links point to theories by Gold, about formation of oil in the
mantle. "Inorganically" says one - well, where does the carbon come
from? In any case, even if the theories were true (they have yet to be
satisfactorily tested), they don't indicate that oil formation is any
faster than dinosaur speed.

We are using it up at jet speed.

Jose
--
The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

"Montblack" wrote in message
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("Jose" wrote)
The rate of production (by the earth) is much less than the rate of
consumption. It's not like growing trees, it's more like harvesting
dinosaurs.


Some would disagree:


Some believe in Intelligent Design, flat earth, and astrology.

Jim Macklin wrote:
The USA needs to build refineries, drill where ever oil is
located, or go back to walking and riding animals. Nuclear
power for cars is a long way away. What other power source
is there?

Yes. And the end effect of the gov't restricting where oil can be
drilled is higher gas prices. There is a price to be paid for gov't
restrictions. We have to ask if we're willing to pay it. The problem is
that most people don't realize they're paying it.

-Robert

At the end of WWII the Japanese sent their largest
battleship to defend Okinawa with only enough fuel to make
the trip one-way. We sank it before it got there.
European oil was in limited supply. The US Army Air Corps
bombed the German controlled oil field in Eastern Europe and
the refineries. Germany developed synthetic oil.



"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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| Jim Macklin wrote:
| The USA needs to build refineries, drill where ever oil
is
| located, or go back to walking and riding animals.
Nuclear
| power for cars is a long way away. What other power
source
| is there?
|
| Yes. And the end effect of the gov't restricting where oil
can be
| drilled is higher gas prices. There is a price to be paid
for gov't
| restrictions. We have to ask if we're willing to pay it.
The problem is
| that most people don't realize they're paying it.
|
| -Robert
|

Jim Macklin wrote:
At the end of WWII the Japanese sent their largest
battleship to defend Okinawa with only enough fuel to make
the trip one-way. We sank it before it got there.
European oil was in limited supply. The US Army Air Corps
bombed the German controlled oil field in Eastern Europe and
the refineries. Germany developed synthetic oil.


If Hitler had had more oil the Russians would speak German.

-Robert