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Why don't voice radio communications use FM?



 
 
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Old September 3rd 06, 12:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default Why don't voice radio communications use FM?

Stefan writes:

Yeah. One pilot talks on AM and the other listens to FM. Great idea.
Adds a lot of clarity to the communication.


It adds more than you would have with both pilots using AM.

However, you're not supposed to listen to other pilots; you're
supposed to listen to controllers. All conversations are air-ground,
not air-air.

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Old September 3rd 06, 01:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Why don't voice radio communications use FM?

Mxsmanic schrieb:

However, you're not supposed to listen to other pilots; you're
supposed to listen to controllers. All conversations are air-ground,
not air-air.


You haven't ever actually flown a plane, have you?

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Old September 3rd 06, 02:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:33:36 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote in :


However, you're not supposed to listen to other pilots; you're
supposed to listen to controllers. All conversations are air-ground,
not air-air.


You'll have to cite a source for this nugget of knowledge. Are you
familiar with Common Traffic Advisory Frequency (CTAF)?

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Old September 3rd 06, 03:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Larry Dighera writes:

You'll have to cite a source for this nugget of knowledge.


FAA AIMs and CFRs make it pretty clear that communications involving a
controller are pilot-controller exchanges, not pilot-pilot exchanges.

Are you familiar with Common Traffic Advisory Frequency (CTAF)?


Yes, but it and similar schemes don't involve a controller, so
obviously the communication is between aircraft directly.

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Old September 3rd 06, 04:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Larry Dighera writes:

You'll have to cite a source for this nugget of knowledge.


FAA AIMs and CFRs make it pretty clear that communications involving a
controller are pilot-controller exchanges, not pilot-pilot exchanges.

Are you familiar with Common Traffic Advisory Frequency (CTAF)?


Yes, but it and similar schemes don't involve a controller, so
obviously the communication is between aircraft directly.


But you just said that all communications are air-ground. You can't
back pedal.
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Old September 3rd 06, 04:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Emily writes:

But you just said that all communications are air-ground. You can't
back pedal.


I can expect others here to have at least a basic knowledge of how
such communications work.

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Old September 3rd 06, 04:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Why don't voice radio communications use FM?

Mxsmanic wrote:
Emily writes:

But you just said that all communications are air-ground. You can't
back pedal.


I can expect others here to have at least a basic knowledge of how
such communications work.

We do. You don't. All communications are NOT air-ground. Disagree?
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Old September 3rd 06, 05:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Emily writes:

All communications are NOT air-ground.


If there is a controller on the channel, they are.

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Old September 3rd 06, 06:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default Why don't voice radio communications use FM?

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:04:01 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote in :

Larry Dighera writes:
However, you're not supposed to listen to other pilots; you're
supposed to listen to controllers. All conversations are air-ground,
not air-air.


You'll have to cite a source for this nugget of knowledge.


FAA AIMs and CFRs make it pretty clear that communications involving a
controller are pilot-controller exchanges, not pilot-pilot exchanges.


While that may be true, it in no way relates to your statement quoted
above.

Stating "you're not supposed to listen to other pilots" is just plain
wrong. Pilots listen to other pilot transmissions to increase their
situational awareness.


Are you familiar with Common Traffic Advisory Frequency (CTAF)?


Yes, but it and similar schemes don't involve a controller, so
obviously the communication is between aircraft directly.


Thank you.
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Old September 3rd 06, 03:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote:


However, you're not supposed to listen to other pilots; you're
supposed to listen to controllers.


Utter nonsense.

It will be entertaining to see what bs you come up with next.

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