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Old September 5th 06, 12:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
BTIZ
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I'm betting that dress codes are in the employee handbook.
Now the management have decided to enforce it.
High Lights the trouble makers.
And gives the union something to complain about.
Makes it seem to the membership that their Union Reps are working for their
best interest.

It seems that NATCA did not have the guts to talk with their feet on their
new contract that was forced down their throat. IIRC Prez Billy called their
bluff back in the early 90s contract negotiation also.

BT

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
As of today, the FAA has imposed a dress code on their employees,
requiring that they (*gasp!*) NOT where flip-flops and cut-offs to
work! Amazingly, believe it or not, these employees are now actually
going to be required to wear (*Oh-mi-God*) DRESS PANTS and a DRESS
SHIRT to work!

In the face of this terrible affront, the controller's union, NATCA,
has decided to do the following, quoted from AvWeb:
************************************************** ***********************************************
What's A Union To Do?
While the battle inside the towers and centers may (to outsiders) have
its whimsical side, the practical impact of the new regime could be
significant. NATCA appears determined to fight each and every violation
of the new rules cited by management. In a memo to controllers at a
major center (we do know which one), union leaders are urging members
to exercise their rights to the letter. "If a supervisor tries to talk
with you regarding the way your are dressed, it constitutes a formal
meeting," the memo reads. "Stop the conversation immediately and ask
for a union representative. The same approach should be used on any
other changes in your working conditions, ask for a rep immediately.
The Agency has a legal obligation to comply." But the memo also says
the overall battle won't be won by individual members discussing their
fashion challenges. "One person alone can not change the course the
agency has decided to take," the memo says. "However, collectively we
can unpave their course and start a new road. I and the rest of your
elected leaders will need your help now more than ever."
************************************************** ***********************************************
Unbelievable! They're actually going to fight against their employer
for dictating what they must wear to work... Apparently their right to
look like bums in a professional setting has been violated, and the
union is going on the offensive!

Whenever we sit and wonder why the Bush Administration has been pushing
ATC privatization so hard, all we must do is read articles like this
one. Imagine -- these folks are up in arms because they have to wear a
dress shirt to work! Can you imagine what must go on in those towers
when a supervisor actually needs something of substance accomplished?

The next time the union sends me one of their whiny spam-mails, asking
for help in the fight against privatization, I'm going to send them
this post. These so-called "civil servants" have done themselves (and
us) a terrible disservice by choosing this ridiculous issue to fight
about, and they have only increased the probability that we will see
ATC privatization.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



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Old September 5th 06, 12:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"BTIZ" wrote in message
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I'm betting that dress codes are in the employee handbook.
Now the management have decided to enforce it.


How much are you willing to wager?


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Old September 6th 06, 09:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Grumman-581[_3_]
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"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:_x2Lg.2559$8J2.647@fed1read11...
It seems that NATCA did not have the guts to talk with their feet on their
new contract that was forced down their throat. IIRC Prez Billy called

their
bluff back in the early 90s contract negotiation also.


Kind of seems like a profession where there is only one employer... Does
your run of the mill controller really have any other job opportunities? I
suspect that senior management would have other opportunities in that they
can shuffle papers just about anywhere, but what about the guys who are
actually doing the work?


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Old September 7th 06, 03:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
BTIZ
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Kind of seems like a profession where there is only one employer... Does
your run of the mill controller really have any other job opportunities?
I
suspect that senior management would have other opportunities in that they
can shuffle papers just about anywhere, but what about the guys who are
actually doing the work?


There are non federal control towers. There are also other professions, ever
heard of cross training?

BT


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Old September 7th 06, 10:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Grumman-581[_3_]
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"BTIZ" wrote in message
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There are also other professions, ever
heard of cross training?


Of course that is a *possibility*, but if someone has spent a considerable
amount of time getting good at some particular profession, it's not exactly
reasonable to assume that they will want to just switch and go to the bottom
of the ladder again...


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Old September 9th 06, 02:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Roger (K8RI)
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On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:09:05 GMT, "Grumman-581"
wrote:

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:13LLg.2729$8J2.1480@fed1read11...
There are also other professions, ever
heard of cross training?


Of course that is a *possibility*, but if someone has spent a considerable
amount of time getting good at some particular profession, it's not exactly
reasonable to assume that they will want to just switch and go to the bottom
of the ladder again...

Oh..You mean like pilots.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
 




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