NATCA Going Down in Flames

Emily wrote:
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"Emily" wrote in message
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But why is the union making such a big deal about it? To tell
employees that a supervisor making a comment about dress constitutes
a "meeting", well...that's why I'm glad we don't have unions at my
particular part of the company.


I don't think they're making a bid deal about the dress code, they,re
making a big deal about the imposed "contract". The dress code is
just one part of it.

I guess I've never figured out why, if an employee doesn't like the
rules he is subjected to, he just doesn't find something else to do. A
union certainly isn't the solution.

A union is like welfare from the government. It saves people having to
think for, and take care of, themselves.

Matt

A union is like welfare from the government. It saves people having to think for, and take care of, themselves.

Unions have nothing to do with government. A union levels the playing
field, which otherwise is skewed towards the employer. Some unions tip
the playing field too far the other way.

Jose
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Jose wrote:
A union is like welfare from the government. It saves people having
to think for, and take care of, themselves.

Unions have nothing to do with government. A union levels the playing
field, which otherwise is skewed towards the employer.

But what's wrong with that? Granted, I have a great employer, but
employers aren't evil.

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:45:05 -0500, Emily
wrote:

Jose wrote:
A union is like welfare from the government. It saves people having
to think for, and take care of, themselves.

Unions have nothing to do with government. A union levels the playing
field, which otherwise is skewed towards the employer.

But what's wrong with that? Granted, I have a great employer, but
employers aren't evil.

Simply amoral. My objective is to maximize the return on my
investment in time in working for the company. To the extent that the
company considers my time a fungable quantity, I will use whatever
tools are available to discourage that view. Collective bargaining
one such lever. I'd be a fool not to use it.

Don

Don Tuite wrote:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:45:05 -0500, Emily
wrote:

Jose wrote:
A union is like welfare from the government. It saves people having
to think for, and take care of, themselves.
Unions have nothing to do with government. A union levels the playing
field, which otherwise is skewed towards the employer.
But what's wrong with that? Granted, I have a great employer, but
employers aren't evil.

Simply amoral. My objective is to maximize the return on my
investment in time in working for the company. To the extent that the
company considers my time a fungable quantity
But isn't it?

I will use whatever
tools are available to discourage that view.
I guess I just don't see anything wrong with that view...

But what's wrong with [unions leveling the playing field]?

Nothing. But there is always the danger that the beast gets too big,
and becomes another bureaucracy.

Jose
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The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

("Emily" wrote)
Unions have nothing to do with government. A union levels the playing
field, which otherwise is skewed towards the employer.

But what's wrong with that? Granted, I have a great employer, but
employers aren't evil.


What's wrong with a boss grabbing some young thing's ta-ta's, in his office,
in exchange for not firing her?

Start with the Homestead Strike and work your way up to... 'your boss is not
allowed to grab your ta-ta's, in exchange for not firing you.'

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carnegie/peopleevents/pande04.html


Montblack

Montblack wrote:
("Emily" wrote)
Unions have nothing to do with government. A union levels the playing
field, which otherwise is skewed towards the employer.

But what's wrong with that? Granted, I have a great employer, but
employers aren't evil.


What's wrong with a boss grabbing some young thing's ta-ta's, in his
office,
in exchange for not firing her?

That's the action of one person, not a corporation.

Cigar, anyone?

"Montblack" wrote in message
...
("Emily" wrote)
Unions have nothing to do with government. A union levels the playing
field, which otherwise is skewed towards the employer.

But what's wrong with that? Granted, I have a great employer, but
employers aren't evil.


What's wrong with a boss grabbing some young thing's ta-ta's, in his
office,
in exchange for not firing her?

Start with the Homestead Strike and work your way up to... 'your boss is
not allowed to grab your ta-ta's, in exchange for not firing you.'

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carnegie/peopleevents/pande04.html


Montblack

Jose wrote:

A union is like welfare from the government. It saves people having
to think for, and take care of, themselves.


Unions have nothing to do with government. A union levels the playing
field, which otherwise is skewed towards the employer. Some unions tip
the playing field too far the other way.

I disagree. It distorts the free market of labor causing inefficiency.

Matt