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Old September 5th 06, 11:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Jim Burns wrote:
I just got off the phone with a VFR only pilot that will probably flew over
1000 hours this SUMMER and never enters B, C, or D. It's not impossible...
hell it isn't even hard. Just ask the ag pilots.
Jim


I'm still trying to figure out how that's not hard. At least where I
fly, it's very difficult to not enter controlled airspace.

And where I used to fly? Very difficult to log 1000 hours VFR at any
time of year.
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Old September 6th 06, 01:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Avoid class A, B, C, D, & E.... 1 mile clear of clouds
Jim

"Emily" wrote in message
. ..
Jim Burns wrote:
I just got off the phone with a VFR only pilot that will probably flew
over
1000 hours this SUMMER and never enters B, C, or D. It's not
impossible...
hell it isn't even hard. Just ask the ag pilots.
Jim


I'm still trying to figure out how that's not hard. At least where I fly,
it's very difficult to not enter controlled airspace.

And where I used to fly? Very difficult to log 1000 hours VFR at any time
of year.



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Old September 6th 06, 01:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jim Burns wrote:
Avoid class A, B, C, D, & E.... 1 mile clear of clouds
Jim


I'm well aware of when radio contact with ATC and an IFR flight plan is
is necessary, thank you. I simply fail to see how all of the above is
not difficult.
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Old September 6th 06, 03:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Take off from an airport with surface area G airspace. Climb beyond the
overlying Class E transition area, if such exists, fly below any overlying
Class E, remaining in Class G. Around here this gives you from the surface
up to 1200ft AGL not withstanding the required people, obstacle, and
populated area type altitude clearance requirements. This is without
entering controlled airspace....

"Emily" wrote in message
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Jim Burns wrote:
Avoid class A, B, C, D, & E.... 1 mile clear of clouds
Jim


I'm well aware of when radio contact with ATC and an IFR flight plan is is
necessary, thank you. I simply fail to see how all of the above is not
difficult.



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Old September 6th 06, 03:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Jim Burns wrote:
Take off from an airport with surface area G airspace. Climb beyond the
overlying Class E transition area, if such exists, fly below any overlying
Class E, remaining in Class G. Around here this gives you from the surface
up to 1200ft AGL not withstanding the required people, obstacle, and
populated area type altitude clearance requirements. This is without
entering controlled airspace....


Like I pointed out, where do I find a Class G airport near where I live?
Simple...there aren't any.
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Old September 6th 06, 03:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Emily" wrote in message
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Like I pointed out, where do I find a Class G airport near where I live?
Simple...there aren't any.


Where do you live?


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Old September 6th 06, 04:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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Like I pointed out, where do I find a Class G airport near where I live?
Simple...there aren't any.


Where do you live?


DFW.

And no, the airports on the outskirts don't count, as they are at least
a two hour drive from work/home.
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Old September 6th 06, 01:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Emily" wrote in message
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I'm still trying to figure out how that's not hard. At least where I fly,
it's very difficult to not enter controlled airspace.


You can enter controlled airspace VFR without using ATC.


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Old September 6th 06, 01:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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I'm still trying to figure out how that's not hard. At least where I fly,
it's very difficult to not enter controlled airspace.


You can enter controlled airspace VFR without using ATC.


Only class E.
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Old September 6th 06, 01:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Emily" wrote in message
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Only class E.


Correct.


 




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