NATCA Going Down in Flames

Jim Burns wrote:
Avoid class A, B, C, D, & E.... 1 mile clear of clouds
Jim

I'm well aware of when radio contact with ATC and an IFR flight plan is
is necessary, thank you. I simply fail to see how all of the above is
not difficult.

Take off from an airport with surface area G airspace. Climb beyond the
overlying Class E transition area, if such exists, fly below any overlying
Class E, remaining in Class G. Around here this gives you from the surface
up to 1200ft AGL not withstanding the required people, obstacle, and
populated area type altitude clearance requirements. This is without
entering controlled airspace....

"Emily" wrote in message
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Jim Burns wrote:
Avoid class A, B, C, D, & E.... 1 mile clear of clouds
Jim

I'm well aware of when radio contact with ATC and an IFR flight plan is is
necessary, thank you. I simply fail to see how all of the above is not
difficult.

Jim Burns wrote:
Take off from an airport with surface area G airspace. Climb beyond the
overlying Class E transition area, if such exists, fly below any overlying
Class E, remaining in Class G. Around here this gives you from the surface
up to 1200ft AGL not withstanding the required people, obstacle, and
populated area type altitude clearance requirements. This is without
entering controlled airspace....

Like I pointed out, where do I find a Class G airport near where I live?
Simple...there aren't any.

"Emily" wrote in message
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Like I pointed out, where do I find a Class G airport near where I live?
Simple...there aren't any.


Where do you live?

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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Like I pointed out, where do I find a Class G airport near where I live?
Simple...there aren't any.


Where do you live?


DFW.

And no, the airports on the outskirts don't count, as they are at least
a two hour drive from work/home.

"Emily" wrote in message
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DFW.


You live on the airport?



And no, the airports on the outskirts don't count, as they are at least a
two hour drive from work/home.


Where do you live? City. Township. Something I can work with.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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DFW.


You live on the airport?

DFW is the term for the metropolitan region.

And no, the airports on the outskirts don't count, as they are at least a
two hour drive from work/home.


Where do you live? City. Township. Something I can work with.

Not on Usenet, sorry.

And no, the airports on the outskirts don't count, as they are at least
a two hour drive from work/home.

So, it's difficult do fly VFR where you live. It's not where *I* live.

Mary and I have flown coast to coast, for 12 years and 1500+ hours, all
VFR. It's easy, it's fun, and it's never a problem, as long as you're
flexible.

Now, of course, would I *prefer* to use ATC? Sure! We use VFR flight
following on virtually every flight, and we enjoy visiting big-city
airports. But if the FAA imposes user fees based on ATC use, it would
be child's play to stop talking to them -- especially now that we have
XM weather on-board.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Mary and I have flown coast to coast, for 12 years and 1500+ hours, all
VFR. It's easy, it's fun, and it's never a problem, as long as you're
flexible.

Now, of course, would I *prefer* to use ATC? Sure! We use VFR flight
following on virtually every flight, and we enjoy visiting big-city
airports. But if the FAA imposes user fees based on ATC use, it would
be child's play to stop talking to them -- especially now that we have
XM weather on-board.

I also fly VFR only but it is easy where I live (Colorado). I also
use ATC for flight following, going into towered airports, get
clearance into Denver Class B, etc. But impose fees (I already pay
via fuel taxes) then expect all these non-essential ATC contacts to go
away.

Go to Pueblo for breakfast? Not with a fee.

Go to COS to refuel? Not with a fee.

Talk to Denver to help with their traffic flow? Sorry.

Talk to COS to minimize impacts to commercial aircraft that fly over
my airport? I would like to BUT.

Flight following? I will take the chance and use my 406 beacon if
needed.

Pre flight briefing? Internet

In some cases that may have negative safety implications.

Ron Lee

Jay Honeck wrote:
And no, the airports on the outskirts don't count, as they are at least
a two hour drive from work/home.

So, it's difficult do fly VFR where you live. It's not where *I* live.

Oh, it's very easy to fly VFR (cloud? what's a cloud?). It's NOT easy
to not talk to ATC.