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Old September 6th 06, 04:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Emily" wrote in message
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DFW.


You live on the airport?



And no, the airports on the outskirts don't count, as they are at least a
two hour drive from work/home.


Where do you live? City. Township. Something I can work with.




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Old September 6th 06, 04:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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DFW.


You live on the airport?


DFW is the term for the metropolitan region.

And no, the airports on the outskirts don't count, as they are at least a
two hour drive from work/home.


Where do you live? City. Township. Something I can work with.


Not on Usenet, sorry.
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Old September 6th 06, 04:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Emily" wrote in message
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Not on Usenet, sorry.


Then I can't help you.


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Old September 6th 06, 04:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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Not on Usenet, sorry.


Then I can't help you.


I wasn't asking for help. I know full well what kind of flying I can
and can't do based on my location. VFR in uncontrolled airspace is very
difficult.
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Old September 6th 06, 04:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Emily wrote:

VFR in uncontrolled airspace is very
difficult.


You're the only one that thinks that.



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Old September 6th 06, 05:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Newps wrote:


Emily wrote:

VFR in uncontrolled airspace is very
difficult.


You're the only one that thinks that.


Well, someone has yet to give me a way that I can fly IN MY LOCAL AREA
without talking to ATC.

And driving two hours to an airport outside of town doesn't count - that
makes it difficult.
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Old September 6th 06, 06:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Well, someone has yet to give me a way that I can fly IN MY LOCAL AREA without talking to ATC.

Sounds like a case of "if it's not in my back yard, it's not a problem".
It reminds me of the DC ADIZ.

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Old September 6th 06, 06:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Emily" wrote in message
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Newps wrote:


Emily wrote:

VFR in uncontrolled airspace is very
difficult.


You're the only one that thinks that.


Well, someone has yet to give me a way that I can fly IN MY LOCAL AREA
without talking to ATC.


Are you unable (from where you're based) to remain below the DFW Class
Bravo...? What, are you based *in* the DFW surface area, like *at* DFW? If
that's the case, it's a loaded question!!!

Here in Phoenix, from my home field (P19 - Stellar Airpark), we can depart
straight out on RWY17 and step climb out from under the Class B. And as far
as going north is concerned we just head northwest toward Falcon Field
(KFFZ) staying east of the Class Bravo surface area and under the first
outer ring. You can turn north while still west of Falcon's Class Delta.
There is plenty of room to climb above the cumulous granite and still not
bust the Class Bravo...and you don't have to talk to anyone.

And driving two hours to an airport outside of town doesn't count - that
makes it difficult.


From reading what you're "saying" I would think this would just make it
*more* difficult. You already are saying it's difficult to begin with.

Jay B


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Old September 6th 06, 11:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"Emily" wrote in message
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Well, someone has yet to give me a way that I can fly IN MY LOCAL AREA
without talking to ATC.


Someone would have, if you hadn't refused to identify your local area.


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Old September 6th 06, 12:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Emily wrote:

Well, someone has yet to give me a way that I can fly IN MY LOCAL AREA
without talking to ATC.

And driving two hours to an airport outside of town doesn't count - that
makes it difficult.



Remember, contract towers aren't FAA "ATC", so you may be able to fly
from some Delta space without contacting "ATC". =8^0
 




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