No more "Left Downwind"?

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Because I operate out of KSNA, that's an interesting bit of (old) news
to me. I can't put my hands on an old chart at the moment. Can you
tell me how the MCAS El Toro Class D airspace was structured if it
didn't reach the surface?


I could, but since I can put my hands on old charts I'll just scan the
portion of the Los Angeles sectional from 1987 and 1997 showing El Toro and
post them in alt.binaries.pictures.aviation.

I could, but since I can put my hands on old charts I'll just scan the
portion of the Los Angeles sectional from 1987 and 1997 showing El Toro and
post them in alt.binaries.pictures.aviation.

You have old charts? Do you perchance have the SF sectional from around
1980?

Jose
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"Jose" wrote in message
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You have old charts?

Many.



Do you perchance have the SF sectional from around 1980?


I have San Francisco sectionals from 1987, 1965, 1958, 1947, and 1943.

Do you perchance have the SF sectional from around 1980?
I have San Francisco sectionals from 1987, 1965, 1958, 1947, and 1943.

If it's convenient for you, I wouldn't mind a scan of the area (1987 and
1965) south of Salinas. In 1981 flew into an airport there (which no
longer exists) with the unique name of "Skypark airport", and was
wondering exactly where it was situated. Alas, I did not save the chart.

Jose
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"Jose" wrote in message
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If it's convenient for you, I wouldn't mind a scan of the area (1987 and
1965) south of Salinas. In 1981 flew into an airport there (which no
longer exists) with the unique name of "Skypark airport", and was
wondering exactly where it was situated. Alas, I did not save the chart.


I could do it, but I don't think that's where the airport you remember was
located.

Prior to circa 1968 when the new series began sectional charts were printed
on just one side. Until around 1950 the reverse was just blank, but about
that time aeronautical data began being put on the back. The data included
aerodromes that appeared on the front of the chart. There is a "Skypark"
listed on the back of the 1965 sectional, the coordinates are 37 03-122 02,
which puts it about four miles north of Santa Cruz. I can scan that area
for you, but you'll find much more information he

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/CA/...html#santacruz

http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid...02&sa=N&tab=wl

looks like the remains of an airport.




"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote
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nk.net...
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| "Jose" wrote in message
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| If it's convenient for you, I wouldn't mind a scan of
the area (1987 and
| 1965) south of Salinas. In 1981 flew into an airport
there (which no
| longer exists) with the unique name of "Skypark
airport", and was
| wondering exactly where it was situated. Alas, I did
not save the chart.
|
|
| I could do it, but I don't think that's where the airport
you remember was
| located.
|
| Prior to circa 1968 when the new series began sectional
charts were printed
| on just one side. Until around 1950 the reverse was just
blank, but about
| that time aeronautical data began being put on the back.
The data included
| aerodromes that appeared on the front of the chart. There
is a "Skypark"
| listed on the back of the 1965 sectional, the coordinates
are 37 03-122 02,
| which puts it about four miles north of Santa Cruz. I can
scan that area
| for you, but you'll find much more information he
|
|
http://www.airfields-freeman.com/CA/...html#santacruz
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid...02&sa=N&tab=wl

looks like the remains of an airport.


Did you examine the map view? To the west of the old runway are "Skypark
Drive", "Piper Cub Court", "Navigator Drive", and "Aviator Court".

There is a "Skypark"
listed on the back of the 1965 sectional, the coordinates are 37 03-122 02,
which puts it about four miles north of Santa Cruz. I can scan that area
for you, but you'll find much more information he

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/CA/...html#santacruz

Thanks. No scan necessary, I think that was it. I remember landing and
taking off to the northwest (dropping off a passenger and chatting a
while). It was windy and the landing was exciting (but a greaser), and
on departure one of the old timers told me to be careful of sink off the
departure end, but that it would go away as I kept going. Sure enough,
we took off, got about a hundred or two feet in the air, and the terrain
dropped below us. We went down, but kept going, and went back up again,
for an uneventful takeoff. It was nice to be ready for it.

When we landed again at Oakland, ATC wanted to know where we were... we
had a flight plan open, and didn't think to amend it to account for the
extra hour chatting on the field. tsk tsk.

Jose
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"Jose" wrote in message
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Do you perchance have the SF sectional from around 1980?
I have San Francisco sectionals from 1987, 1965, 1958, 1947, and 1943.

If it's convenient for you, I wouldn't mind a scan of the area (1987 and
1965) south of Salinas. In 1981 flew into an airport there (which no
longer exists) with the unique name of "Skypark airport", and was
wondering exactly where it was situated. Alas, I did not save the chart.

Jose


Jose,

Have you seen this website?

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/index.htm

Didn't see a Skypark Airport but I only skimmed the CA entries...with a
little digging you might find it on this site.

Jay B

Would you be willing to sell the 1943? That was the year I was born and I
have an original of the Grass Valley newspaper for the date of my birth and
a pocket piece 1943 half-dollar that I've had since my gramma gave it to me
for my tenth birthday -- and a few magazines (Life, Good Housekeeping, and a
few more). I've never been able to find a sectional from that year.

If you don't want to sell it, can you recommend a good source for old
sectionals?

Jim



"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Jose" wrote in message
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You have old charts?

Many.



Do you perchance have the SF sectional from around 1980?


I have San Francisco sectionals from 1987, 1965, 1958, 1947, and 1943.