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Old September 7th 06, 12:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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Do you actually fly out of DFW?


Nope, but I work there.


So, where do you fly out of now? How long does it take to get there?
To taxi?

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Old September 7th 06, 12:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jose wrote:
Do you actually fly out of DFW?



Nope, but I work there.


So, where do you fly out of now? How long does it take to get there? To
taxi?

Jose


Fly out of ADS. Drive is about twenty minutes. Taxi...well, with one
runway and mostly jet traffic, taxi is really quick.
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Old September 7th 06, 02:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Fly out of ADS. Drive is about twenty minutes. Taxi...well, with one runway and mostly jet traffic, taxi is really quick.

Just north of ADS is F69. It's a nontowered airport in the ADS class D.
I bet there's some sort of agreement that lets poeple fly out of F69
without bothering the tower. It might be worth looking into. If you
can get out of F69 without talking to ADS tower, you are under the 3000
foot ring of the class B. Say under 3000 feet and you can toss the
radio out the window.

I bet you save a lot of hobbs time too.

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Old September 7th 06, 02:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jose wrote:
Fly out of ADS. Drive is about twenty minutes. Taxi...well, with one
runway and mostly jet traffic, taxi is really quick.


Just north of ADS is F69.


Dallas Air Park is a private neighborhood, they do not have planes for rent.
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Old September 7th 06, 02:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Emily wrote:
Jose wrote:
Fly out of ADS. Drive is about twenty minutes. Taxi...well, with
one runway and mostly jet traffic, taxi is really quick.


Just north of ADS is F69.


Dallas Air Park is a private neighborhood, they do not have planes for
rent.


Can someone remind me of what issue we are trying to solve in this
thread? Emily, are you actually looking for a non-controlled field in
the Dallas/Ft. Worth area that has rentals? And that is within your
restrictive criteria of driving times from near KDFW? And what are the
other criteria? And are you really looking for a solution or just trying
to make some type of point?
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Old September 7th 06, 02:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Airports near DFW (was NATCA Going Down in Flames)

Bruce Riggs wrote:
Emily wrote:
Jose wrote:
Fly out of ADS. Drive is about twenty minutes. Taxi...well, with
one runway and mostly jet traffic, taxi is really quick.

Just north of ADS is F69.


Dallas Air Park is a private neighborhood, they do not have planes for
rent.


Can someone remind me of what issue we are trying to solve in this
thread? Emily, are you actually looking for a non-controlled field in
the Dallas/Ft. Worth area that has rentals? And that is within your
restrictive criteria of driving times from near KDFW? And what are the
other criteria? And are you really looking for a solution or just trying
to make some type of point?


I made my point long ago. I'm perfectly happy flying out of ADS.
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Old September 7th 06, 03:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Airports near DFW (was NATCA Going Down in Flames)

I made my point long ago. I'm perfectly happy flying out of ADS.

Her point is that it's "too much trouble" to fly out of the DFW area
NORDO. I suppose the threshhold of "too much trouble" varies from pilot
to pilot; the thread has gone to how much trouble is "too much". (Even
Jay would find some amount of trouble to be "too much").

IIRC, the thread's divergance started with the suggestion that ATC would
charge for services, and pilots would simply, and easily, avoid ATC.

Well, yes and no.

Jose
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Old September 7th 06, 09:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jose" wrote in message
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Just north of ADS is F69. It's a nontowered airport in the ADS class D.
I bet there's some sort of agreement that lets poeple fly out of F69
without bothering the tower. It might be worth looking into. If you
can get out of F69 without talking to ADS tower, you are under the 3000
foot ring of the class B. Say under 3000 feet and you can toss the
radio out the window.

I bet you save a lot of hobbs time too.


I got my PPL out of ADS (or at least I took my *second* checkride from a
flight school there)... I don't remember there being a lot of delay added to
the flight because of there being a tower there... You didn't have to talk
to DFW approach, only give the ADS tower a call a few miles out... Best I
remember, the reply was always something like, "Report downwind Rwy xxx"...
Then again, that was probably somewhere around 1993 or 1994, so things might
have changed a bit since then...


 




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