NATCA Going Down in Flames

Grand Prairie is a 45 minute drive for me.
Arlington can be an hour on bad days.
Mesquite, easily and hour and a half (plus, you'll get shot on the way), and
Lancaster? Over two hours to get to Lancaster.

45 minutes is not bad at all. I drove an hour each way to TEB and CDW
when I was flying out of New York. Plus I had to cross the Washington
Bridge (though I had the advantage of buying cheap gas in NJ)

Do you actually fly out of DFW? In a spam can? How long is it from
engine start to takeoff? From touchdown to engine stop? The hobbs
meter is running all that time; at the outlying airports I bet taxi time
is much less, and the hobbs meter doesn't run while you're driving to
the airport.

Jose
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"Emily" wrote in message
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But whatever. I might have to talk to you on the radio, but thankfully I
don't have to talk to you here. Plonk.


I'm an air traffic controller. I don't think you'll ever be in a position
to talk to me on the radio.

Jose wrote:
Grand Prairie is a 45 minute drive for me.
Arlington can be an hour on bad days. Mesquite, easily and hour and a
half (plus, you'll get shot on the way), and
Lancaster? Over two hours to get to Lancaster.

45 minutes is not bad at all.

No, it's not terrible if you're driving 50 miles. If you're driving 10,
which is about the distance to Grand Prairie, it's pretty bad.

Do you actually fly out of DFW?

Nope, but I work there. Was just using it as a point of reference, it's
the closest airport to me.

Do you actually fly out of DFW?


Nope, but I work there.

So, where do you fly out of now? How long does it take to get there?
To taxi?

Jose
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Jose wrote:
Do you actually fly out of DFW?


Nope, but I work there.

So, where do you fly out of now? How long does it take to get there? To
taxi?

Jose

Fly out of ADS. Drive is about twenty minutes. Taxi...well, with one
runway and mostly jet traffic, taxi is really quick.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:46:27 -0400, "John T" wrote in
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Nothing in the original post suggests to me anybody has denied any "right"
to bargain (if any such "right" exists).

Normally (not federal employees apparently), if an employer changes
job requirements, it opens the contract for renegotiation. To demand
the employee meet the new requirements without voicing acceptance
seems like abuse to me.

Sems to me you know little to nothing about employment laws.

Jay Honeck wrote:
The only thing that is ridiculous in that story is that people are not
free to dress as they wish. So much for the land of the free.


That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read here -- and I've read a
LOT of goofy stuff over the years.

An employer not only has the right to impose a dress code on employees
-- he has a DUTY to do so.

In our college town, we've visited restaurants where you couldn't tell
the employees from the customers. College girls wearing peasant shirts
that showed their tatooed butts, no name badge, and no "we're here to
serve you" attitude translated into a single-visit, never to return.

In our hotel, our employee dress code is relatively liberal -- but it's
strictly adhered to. Our employees are required to wear either our
green "Alexis Park Inn & Suites" shirts, or a (supplied) aviation
themed Hawaiian shirt with a collar. In summer, khaki shorts are
allowed, but never cut-offs or blue jeans, and no t-shirts. A name
badge must be worn at all times.

Does it matter, since much of their work is on the phone? Hell, yes.
When a guest comes onto our property, we want them to be able to tell
the guards from the inmates, and we expect our employees to act
professional at all times.

If we expect this from hotel clerks, housekeepers, and waitresses, I
don't think it's too much to ask from our "professional" air traffic
controllers.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Ok, Jay,

Your employees know, when hired, what the dress code is. How do you
think they would feel if today you went to work and informed them that
from now on they would wear black-tie to work everyday. I bet you would
have a few very unhappy folks. If for years I could wear pants to
school and jeans on Friday (fairly standard for teachers around here)
and a new principal came in and mandated dresses (some school districts
still require women to wear dresses) I'd be VERY UNHAPPY.

Margy

Fly out of ADS. Drive is about twenty minutes. Taxi...well, with one runway and mostly jet traffic, taxi is really quick.

Just north of ADS is F69. It's a nontowered airport in the ADS class D.
I bet there's some sort of agreement that lets poeple fly out of F69
without bothering the tower. It might be worth looking into. If you
can get out of F69 without talking to ADS tower, you are under the 3000
foot ring of the class B. Say under 3000 feet and you can toss the
radio out the window.

I bet you save a lot of hobbs time too.

Jose
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Jose wrote:
Fly out of ADS. Drive is about twenty minutes. Taxi...well, with one
runway and mostly jet traffic, taxi is really quick.

Just north of ADS is F69.

Dallas Air Park is a private neighborhood, they do not have planes for rent.

"John T" wrote in message
m...
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Nothing in the original post suggests to me anybody has denied any "right"
to bargain (if any such "right" exists).


I believe it is called 'freedom of association'.

ICBW