NATCA Going Down in Flames

Bruce Riggs wrote:
Emily wrote:
Jose wrote:
Fly out of ADS. Drive is about twenty minutes. Taxi...well, with
one runway and mostly jet traffic, taxi is really quick.

Just north of ADS is F69.

Dallas Air Park is a private neighborhood, they do not have planes for
rent.

Can someone remind me of what issue we are trying to solve in this
thread? Emily, are you actually looking for a non-controlled field in
the Dallas/Ft. Worth area that has rentals? And that is within your
restrictive criteria of driving times from near KDFW? And what are the
other criteria? And are you really looking for a solution or just trying
to make some type of point?

I made my point long ago. I'm perfectly happy flying out of ADS.

I made my point long ago. I'm perfectly happy flying out of ADS.

Her point is that it's "too much trouble" to fly out of the DFW area
NORDO. I suppose the threshhold of "too much trouble" varies from pilot
to pilot; the thread has gone to how much trouble is "too much". (Even
Jay would find some amount of trouble to be "too much").

IIRC, the thread's divergance started with the suggestion that ATC would
charge for services, and pilots would simply, and easily, avoid ATC.

Well, yes and no.

Jose
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Jose wrote:

IIRC, the thread's divergance started with the suggestion that ATC would
charge for services, and pilots would simply, and easily, avoid ATC.

Well, yes and no.

Yes for some like me; no for some like Emily.

Ron Lee

Well, yes and no.
Yes for some like me; no for some like Emily.

Well, it's a bit more than that. Flying in the DC area without talking
to anyone is hard. (at least doing it more than once is hard!). Flying
in weather without talking to ATC can be hard in many areas of the
country where it would be easy VFR, and when that area doesn't have much
VFR, that "adds value" to ATC services. (Many areas like that don't
have much spam can IFR either). And although you may be able to "fly"
without talking to anyone, this doesn't help if you can't get where
you're going without them.

It's not just Emily (although I will say she paints a bleaker picture
than I think is warranted).

And if a privatized ATC starts charging for services, and finds that
they are not making enough money because spam cans demure, then it is
not out of the question that the FAA will require, somehow, that spam
cans procure more ATC services.

All speculation, but intertwined. We are lucky to have the system we
have, but we need to be vigliant that it doesn't get sold, piece by
piece, like the DC area did, as each of us who is not directly affected,
poo poohs the idea that it could come to reach us.

Jose
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