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![]() Andy wrote: Martin Eiler wrote: We should be commending the OLC committee for weeding out the renegade few who insist that they should be scored for flights that violated regulations. It is an unreasonable penalty to completely eliminate a 10 hour flight that landed 1 minute after sunset. To avoid this penalty a pilot may have to give up soaring an hour early to be sure of getting home in time, or should he landout a minute from home to save the points. Andy So, by that logic Andy, a really spectacular flight that violates an FAR gets some additional leeway over a not-so-impressive flight? There was a great article in Soaring maybe a year ago by Brian Collins about a 1000K flight. One of the key elements of his flight planning involved getting back on the ground before sunset. Clearly, he could have gone on to rack up at least another 100K or 200K by ignoring the FARs, but he chose to make the FARs a key part of his decision making. So, to answer your question, "Yes, a pilot should give up soaring early to be sure of getting home in time." Does that have to be "an hour early"? No. If you fly it the same way you would typically fly a MAT (i.e. leave a few close in turnpoints for the end of the day), there's no reason to give up that much of the flyable day. Erik Mann LS8-18 P3 |
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![]() Papa3 wrote: So, by that logic Andy, a really spectacular flight that violates an FAR gets some additional leeway over a not-so-impressive flight? No that's not what I proposed. If scored soaring flight ends at sunset the rule is no different for a flight with a sunrise launch than one that starts 10 minutes before sunset. Andy |
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Andy wrote:
Papa3 wrote: So, by that logic Andy, a really spectacular flight that violates an FAR gets some additional leeway over a not-so-impressive flight? No that's not what I proposed. If scored soaring flight ends at sunset the rule is no different for a flight with a sunrise launch than one that starts 10 minutes before sunset. Checking for that would make a lot of sense. The pilots I know attempting records and long flights in wave make very sure they take off after sunrise, so I'm sure they would approve. -- Note: email address new as of 9/4/2006 Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA "Transponders in Sailplanes" on the Soaring Safety Foundation website www.soaringsafety.org/prevention/articles.html "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org |
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Excellent point. Brian's article actually appeared in the February 2006
issue of Soaring. It describes a long ridge flight last fall. All througout the description of his filght planning and execution he is working backwards from a finish before sunset. Papa3 wrote: snip There was a great article in Soaring maybe a year ago by Brian Collins about a 1000K flight. One of the key elements of his flight planning involved getting back on the ground before sunset. Clearly, he could have gone on to rack up at least another 100K or 200K by ignoring the FARs, but he chose to make the FARs a key part of his decision making. So, to answer your question, "Yes, a pilot should give up soaring early to be sure of getting home in time." Does that have to be "an hour early"? No. If you fly it the same way you would typically fly a MAT (i.e. leave a few close in turnpoints for the end of the day), there's no reason to give up that much of the flyable day. Erik Mann LS8-18 P3 |
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