NATCA Going Down in Flames

NOW you're talking about something substantive. Of course what you've
described is an issue -- so get your collective heads out of your
collective butts about having to dress professionally, and start
discussing the *real* issues.


YOU started this thread. YOU are the one that focused on the dress code and
ignored the rest of the newly imposed work rules.

NATCA throwing a fit about a minor dress code change was newsworthy
enough for AvWeb to pick up; thus, the thread.

My statement stands. If controllers want issues to be taken seriously,
tell your union to stop worrying about the window dressing, stop
whining about having to dress like businesspeople, and focus on the
substantive issues. Starting a dispute over this kind of stuff isn't
doing anything but make NATCA look unprofessional.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

If controllers want issues to be taken seriously,
tell your union to stop worrying about the window dressing, stop
whining about having to dress like businesspeople, and focus on the
substantive issues.

If the FAA wants issues to be taken seriously, tell them to stop
dressing the window, stop treating controllers like children whose mind
stops once they are in casual clothing, and focus on the substantive
issues. Lord knows, the FAA has plenty of them.

Jose
--
There are more ways to skin a cat than there are cats.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

When I read it, I took it a different way. I took it as a sign of how
off-track the FAA could be in requiring such a superficial thing in the face
of other, as you have said, more important issues. The other rule changes
can be debated. Instituting a dress code and then debating it, is a waste of
time.

And another thing, no controller should report to work without having used
mouthwash...

Appearance is a funny thing. It is difficult to determine if someone just
doesn't care about their appearance or their job - or that they feel so
confident in what they do that they believe that appearance doesn't matter.
Rather than institute a dress code, find out which of these two is the
cause. For the first, fire. For the second, educate.

The guy that always dresses nicely among shorts and tee-shirts is probably
the one that is afraid someone will discover his incompetence.

I'm not a real big supporter of unions. I'm sure that there are good
examples out there but my exposure has been with people taking advantage of
union representation so that they could do the least that they could do with
maximum pay and benefits.

It would seem to me that, if the union was doing it's job, that it would be
asking union members to do their best and look their best.

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Travis
Lake N3094P
PWK

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
NOW you're talking about something substantive. Of course what you've
described is an issue -- so get your collective heads out of your
collective butts about having to dress professionally, and start
discussing the *real* issues.


YOU started this thread. YOU are the one that focused on the dress code
and
ignored the rest of the newly imposed work rules.

NATCA throwing a fit about a minor dress code change was newsworthy
enough for AvWeb to pick up; thus, the thread.

My statement stands. If controllers want issues to be taken seriously,
tell your union to stop worrying about the window dressing, stop
whining about having to dress like businesspeople, and focus on the
substantive issues. Starting a dispute over this kind of stuff isn't
doing anything but make NATCA look unprofessional.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...

NATCA throwing a fit about a minor dress code change was newsworthy
enough for AvWeb to pick up; thus, the thread.


NATCA isn't throwing a fit about a minor dress code change. What made you
think it was? The AvWeb piece you quoted refers to "the new rules cited by
management", the dress code is just one of them. It is the whole body of
newly imposed rules that is the issue. Nor did AvWeb mention cutoffs or
flip-flops, but you zeroed right in on them. It's true that shorts are
banned in the dress code, but AvWeb didn't say they were. What was your
source for that? You must have had additional information before you
started this thread. Why didn't you cite any of them?



My statement stands. If controllers want issues to be taken seriously,
tell your union to stop worrying about the window dressing, stop
whining about having to dress like businesspeople, and focus on the
substantive issues. Starting a dispute over this kind of stuff isn't
doing anything but make NATCA look unprofessional.


NATCA doesn't listen to me. It appears to me that NATCA is focused on the
entire body of newly imposed work rules, and it is just you that is focused
on the dress code.