NATCA Going Down in Flames

If controllers want issues to be taken seriously,
tell your union to stop worrying about the window dressing, stop
whining about having to dress like businesspeople, and focus on the
substantive issues.

If the FAA wants issues to be taken seriously, tell them to stop
dressing the window, stop treating controllers like children whose mind
stops once they are in casual clothing, and focus on the substantive
issues. Lord knows, the FAA has plenty of them.

Jose
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There are more ways to skin a cat than there are cats.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Why don't you answer my questions?

Because after several years of on-line sparring with you, Steven, I've
learned that your method of debate is to simply keep asking questions
until the original point is lost. It's counter-productive and results
in uncontrolled thread-drift.

If it improved FSS why wouldn't it improve ATC?

I firmly believe that privatization WOULD make ATC better.

Why?

Because competitition always improves performance. If you (as an
employee) know that you can be replaced tomorrow by someone younger,
stronger, smarter, and cheaper, you will work just *that* much harder
to be a great controller. If, on the other hand, you think you're
invulnerable to discipline by management because of work rules, union
contracts, etc., a major incentive to "go the extra mile" is gone.

It's the primary reason communism fails as an economic system. Thus,
privatizing ATC would inevitably improve it.

But that is certainly NOT going to help GA.


Why not? How could an improved ATC not benefit all users?

I don't care about *all* users. GA doesn't *need* improved ATC, and
therefore shouldn't be made to pay for it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 17:48:53 GMT, (Ron Lee)
wrote in :

What don't you understand about fuel taxes? Are you working on your
assignment showing costs and fees/taxes paid among the various
aviation groups? If not then you really should stop the GA tax
subsidy rant.


That's okay. Let him rant. It adds to his (lack of) readability.

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:48:42 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote in :

readability = credibility

Skylune wrote:
Many federal, unionized employees have an entitlement mentality. You know,
like GA pilots who want tax subsidies to support their hobby.

Oh, you'd rather tax money go to welfare mothers with 10 kids. I see.
NOW your mentality makes sense. How about you quit the crack, go to
college, and stop making babies?

I firmly believe that privatization WOULD make ATC better.
Why?
Because competitition always improves performance.

Privatization does not mean competition.

Jose
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There are more ways to skin a cat than there are cats.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Because competitition always improves performance.

Privatization does not mean competition.

You think there's no one waiting in the wings to bid against
Lockheed-Martin?

I'll bet there's at least half a dozen companies, all willing to bid on
the ATC contract, all promising to do it "cheaper-faster-better"...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article om,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

I'll bet there's at least half a dozen companies, all willing to bid on
the ATC contract, all promising to do it "cheaper-faster-better"...

I believe it was one of the Mercury astronauts that made a comment about
being bothered by the fact that the construction of the capsules and
rockets went to the lowest bidder. And there were many more companies
around then doing the business than there are today.

Jay Honeck wrote:
Because competitition always improves performance.

Privatization does not mean competition.


You think there's no one waiting in the wings to bid against
Lockheed-Martin?

I'll bet there's at least half a dozen companies, all willing to bid on
the ATC contract, all promising to do it "cheaper-faster-better"...

That isn't quite the same as what we traditionally think of as free
market competition. In a normal free market, several companies are
providing roughly the same product or service at the same time. So you
can compare the performance of multiple companies simultaneously. That
is a whole lot different than serially switching from one low bidder to
the next and HOPING that the next company really can do what they say.

Matt

Ron Lee wrote:
You know, like GA pilots who want tax subsidies to
support their hobby.

What don't you understand about fuel taxes? Are you working on
your assignment showing costs and fees/taxes paid among the various
aviation groups? If not then you really should stop the GA tax
subsidy rant.

The subsidy from the AIP fund for GA is small. To help out in
this "assignment," I analyzed AIP grants for a recent year. Let's
take Florida, where there's many "hobby pilots." Exactly 3% of
Florida's grant money went to GA airports, and the projects were
mostly concrete. Recreational pilots are not helped much if at
all by: lengthening a 4,000' rwy, another taxiway, fancy approach
light systems, or an ILS. None of the projects involved
resurfacing a rwy, which we'll say is beneficial to all users if
in bad shape. Also, 8 GA airports rec'd grants, meaning 103 didn't.

Fred F.