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![]() "Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message ... OTOH I view restaurants and hotels as a different world than computer geeks and Air Traffic Controllers. True. One group meets the public and another doesn't...normally. I do notice, in my thirty some years in the business/engineering something of a relationship from dress (call it comportment) to attitude, to I laugh when I hear the term "Software Engineer". Slop shop is what I've seen. There's casual, as appropriate, and there grunge...especially when adults are acting like spoiled brats. (See remarks about IT in Asia; those who thought IT was a company provided playground). |
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I laugh when I hear the term "Software Engineer". Slop shop is what I've
seen. There is sloppy code and sloppy dress. Can you demonstrate a positive correlation between them? Jose -- There are more ways to skin a cat than there are cats. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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Yup.. These are the same people who wrote software that have us
clicking on "start" to turn off our computers,,, They comment how they make as much if not more the ATC workers. Money doesn't seem to weed out the bizarre so it must be the clothes they wear..... Ducking and running. Ben. Jose wrote: I laugh when I hear the term "Software Engineer". Slop shop is what I've seen. There is sloppy code and sloppy dress. Can you demonstrate a positive correlation between them? Jose -- There are more ways to skin a cat than there are cats. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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Jose wrote:
I laugh when I hear the term "Software Engineer". Slop shop is what I've seen. There is sloppy code and sloppy dress. Can you demonstrate a positive correlation between them? Yes. Hint: Ghetto. |
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 06:22:50 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote: Jose wrote: I laugh when I hear the term "Software Engineer". Slop shop is what I've seen. There is sloppy code and sloppy dress. Can you demonstrate a positive correlation between them? Yes. We had one programmer who was always neatly dressed. I had to rewrite a lot of his code as it was difficult to read and he didn't know what internal documentation meant. Neat dresser, sloppy programmer albeit the stuff worked. So like many other things I'd have to say...some times yes and sometimes no. Hint: Ghetto. Ghetto = subdivision, group, or as in Brooklyn (borough) Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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"Roger (K8RI)" wrote: We had one programmer who was always neatly dressed. I had to rewrite a lot of his code as it was difficult to read and he didn't know what internal documentation meant. Neat dresser, sloppy programmer albeit the stuff worked. Wait a minute... you re-wrote his code and you are giving him credit for it working? |
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 02:15:34 +0000, john smith wrote:
Wait a minute... you re-wrote his code and you are giving him credit for it working? It can be true. But it also shows that "working" is necessary but insufficient for "good" (or even "decent"). Sadly, those looking in from outside the industry cannot discern the difference. That is one reason why so many have been burned by bad programming of one sort of another. For example, something can work but be so fragile that it cannot withstand any evolution of requirements (and therefore enhancement of the software). This is why God invented Code Reviews. - Andrew |
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 02:15:34 GMT, john smith wrote:
In article , "Roger (K8RI)" wrote: We had one programmer who was always neatly dressed. I had to rewrite a lot of his code as it was difficult to read and he didn't know what internal documentation meant. Neat dresser, sloppy programmer albeit the stuff worked. Wait a minute... you re-wrote his code and you are giving him credit for it working? That is because they did work. He wrote working programs. They did what they were supposed to do. I reorganized them into logical order using what is called "pretty printing" which makes the source code easy to read for those who come along behind. I then added internal documentation. Both of the above are things unknown to management. They only care if the code works for the original job. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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There is sloppy code and sloppy dress. Can you demonstrate a positive
correlation between them? Yup.. These are the same people who wrote software that have us clicking on "start" to turn off our computers,,, They comment how they make as much if not more the ATC workers. Money doesn't seem to weed out the bizarre so it must be the clothes they wear..... Ducking and running. I wonder what windows would be like if programmers were nude. Jose -- There are more ways to skin a cat than there are cats. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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