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Mxsmanic,
As a passenger, only when absolutely necessary. Why? It's one of the safest modes of transportation. Do you drive? -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Thomas Borchert schrieb:
As a passenger, only when absolutely necessary. Why? It's one of the safest modes of transportation. Are you kidding? With all those garbled communications over AM? Stefan |
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Stefan writes:
Are you kidding? With all those garbled communications over AM? That's only the tip of the iceberg. The skies are mighty crowded today, and that's my biggest source of worry. The practical logistics of travelling on commercial flights as a passenger make it a very unpleasant ordeal nowadays. Flying as a pilot is not very practical, as it costs thousands of dollars to get a license and thousands of dollars to fly, and that's only if you are satisfied with little tin-can private aircraft. If you want to fly multiengine jets, you need to pony up seven figures as a bare minimum. If you want to fly military aircraft, you're out of luck unless you started at age 20 and spent years in the service, and even then it's hard to get into that position. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 20:20:42 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote in : If you want to fly military aircraft, you're out of luck unless you started at age 20 and ... Not really: http://www.combataircraft.com/aircraft/tl39.aspx Designed and built by Aero Vodochody in Czechoslovakia, the L-39C is a tandem-seat, single engine jet warbird, originally designed to be a pilot trainer. The L-39 Albatros has been flown by numerous Eastern European air forces since 1974. Many L-39s are now owned privately throughout the world. The L-39 is considered to be one of the most popular jet warbirds in the world. http://aviasales.com/ General information about L-39 Albatross aircraft Basic and advanced trainer, the largest jet training fleet around the world in service. Manufactured byAero Vodochody, Czech Republic. L-39 main features: Excellent handling characteristics within the whole flight envelope Operation capability on grass strips and semi-prepared airstrips Excellent visibility from both cockpits Easy to maintain and service Low operational cost High reliability Model L-39C is best for basic and advanced jet training The practical suitability of L-39 aircraft for training tasks is demonstrated daily in military service of more than 30 Air Forces in Europe, Asia, Africa and America. The entire L-39 fleet, covering more than 2,800 delivered L-39 aircraft worldwide, has accumulated over 4,000,000 flying hours. Information from official Aero Vodochody web site Aircrafts for sale 1981, L-39C Albatros, 132131 for information about the price please contact us view detailed information 1981, L-39C Albatros, 132019 for information about the price please contact us This is a nice L-39C Albatross aircraft. It was manufactured in 1981, and was used by Ukrainian army as a trainer. It was well maintained by military personel, which were trained by manufactured. view detailed information 1982, L-39C Albatros, 232208 for information about the price please contact us S O L D on 07/28/06 Delivered to USA 06/12/06 This is a nice L-39C Albatross aircraft. It was manufactured in 1982, and was used by Ukrainian army as a trainer. It was well maintained by military personel, which were trained by manufactured. view detailed information 1982, L-39C Albatros, 232201 for information about the price please contact us This is a nice L-39C Albatross aircraft. It was manufactured in 1982, and was used by Ukrainian army as a trainer. It was well maintained by military personel, which were trained by manufactured. view detailed information |
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
... Low operational cost Compared to other military jet aircraft... Assuming $3 per gallon for Jet-A, you're probably looking at a best economical fuel consumption of about $1 per nm... 130 gph at 360 kts at 25K ft, for what I understand... Damn, that even makes my pickup's fuel consumption look good... grin |
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Larry Dighera writes:
If you want to fly military aircraft, you're out of luck unless you started at age 20 and ... Not really ... I was thinking mainly of state-of-the-art fighters and bombers, or other expensive and sensitive aircraft. I've been told by several military pilots that they really like trainers, though, and would choose those for their personal aircraft if they could. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 02:27:37 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote: On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 20:20:42 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote in : If you want to fly military aircraft, you're out of luck unless you started at age 20 and ... Not really: http://www.combataircraft.com/aircraft/tl39.aspx Designed and built by Aero Vodochody in Czechoslovakia, the L-39C is a tandem-seat, single engine jet warbird, originally designed to be a pilot trainer. The L-39 Albatros has been flown by numerous Eastern European air forces since 1974. Many L-39s are now owned privately throughout the world. The L-39 is considered to be one of the most popular jet warbirds in the world. And to think I almost purchased one of these (relatively low time and in good shape) plus a brand new spare engine still in the can less than 10 years ago for about the same price I paid for the Debonair. THAT would have been a *good* investment! snip Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
... And to think I almost purchased one of these (relatively low time and in good shape) plus a brand new spare engine still in the can less than 10 years ago for about the same price I paid for the Debonair. THAT would have been a *good* investment! Calculate the hours (or perhaps distances) that you've flown in the last 10 years and see how much fuel you would have used in the L-39... It might be interesting to see how the numbers work out once you factor that in... Might as well factor in the cost of annual inspections... Surely they are more expensive than the Deb, right? Also, I wonder what the difference in the insurance would be each year.... Personally, I have a bit of trouble justifying something that burns 130 gph on it's *economical* setting... |
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Thomas Borchert writes:
Why? It's one of the safest modes of transportation. It's also the most frustrating. Hours to get to the airport, hours to get past the paranoia of incompetent security staff, another hour to get aboard, another hour waiting to leave the gate, a short period in the air with tons of traffic all around, above, and below you, and then another couple of hours at the other end. All of this is avoided in simulation. You start the engines and go. When you are done, you stop. Do you drive? Not if I can avoid it. I exhausted the novelty of driving years ago, and most real-world driving today involves frustrations of its own. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Mxsmanic,
It's also the most frustrating. Hours to get to the airport, hours to get past the paranoia of incompetent security staff, another hour to get aboard, another hour waiting to leave the gate, a short period in the air with tons of traffic all around, above, and below you, and then another couple of hours at the other end. Coudln't agree less. If, after that "short period in the air", I arrive 6000 miles from where I usually live, the exitment is all worth it. But I take it you're not much into real life. All of this is avoided in simulation. You start the engines and go. When you are done, you stop. What's simulation got to do with flying? Do you drive? Not if I can avoid it. Well, what can I say. You live a weird life. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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