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Old September 9th 06, 02:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Default Why don't voice radio communications use FM?

Mxsmanic,

As a passenger, only when absolutely
necessary.


Why? It's one of the safest modes of transportation. Do you drive?

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Old September 9th 06, 03:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Stefan
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Thomas Borchert schrieb:

As a passenger, only when absolutely
necessary.


Why? It's one of the safest modes of transportation.


Are you kidding? With all those garbled communications over AM?

Stefan
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Old September 9th 06, 07:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Stefan writes:

Are you kidding? With all those garbled communications over AM?


That's only the tip of the iceberg. The skies are mighty crowded
today, and that's my biggest source of worry. The practical logistics
of travelling on commercial flights as a passenger make it a very
unpleasant ordeal nowadays. Flying as a pilot is not very practical,
as it costs thousands of dollars to get a license and thousands of
dollars to fly, and that's only if you are satisfied with little
tin-can private aircraft. If you want to fly multiengine jets, you
need to pony up seven figures as a bare minimum. If you want to fly
military aircraft, you're out of luck unless you started at age 20 and
spent years in the service, and even then it's hard to get into that
position.

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Old September 10th 06, 03:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 20:20:42 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote in :

If you want to fly military aircraft, you're out of luck
unless you started at age 20 and ...


Not really:

http://www.combataircraft.com/aircraft/tl39.aspx
Designed and built by Aero Vodochody in Czechoslovakia, the L-39C
is a tandem-seat, single engine jet warbird, originally designed
to be a pilot trainer. The L-39 Albatros has been flown by
numerous Eastern European air forces since 1974. Many L-39s are
now owned privately throughout the world. The L-39 is considered
to be one of the most popular jet warbirds in the world.


http://aviasales.com/
General information about L-39 Albatross aircraft
Basic and advanced trainer, the largest jet training fleet around
the world in service. Manufactured byAero Vodochody, Czech
Republic.

L-39 main features:

Excellent handling characteristics within the whole flight
envelope
Operation capability on grass strips and semi-prepared airstrips
Excellent visibility from both cockpits
Easy to maintain and service
Low operational cost
High reliability
Model L-39C is best for basic and advanced jet training

The practical suitability of L-39 aircraft for training tasks is
demonstrated daily in military service of more than 30 Air Forces
in Europe, Asia, Africa and America. The entire L-39 fleet,
covering more than 2,800 delivered L-39 aircraft worldwide, has
accumulated over 4,000,000 flying hours.

Information from official Aero Vodochody web site



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This is a nice L-39C Albatross aircraft. It was manufactured in
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view detailed information
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Old September 10th 06, 04:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Grumman-581[_3_]
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Low operational cost


Compared to other military jet aircraft... Assuming $3 per gallon for Jet-A,
you're probably looking at a best economical fuel consumption of about $1
per nm... 130 gph at 360 kts at 25K ft, for what I understand... Damn, that
even makes my pickup's fuel consumption look good... grin


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Old September 10th 06, 06:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Larry Dighera writes:

If you want to fly military aircraft, you're out of luck
unless you started at age 20 and ...


Not really ...


I was thinking mainly of state-of-the-art fighters and bombers, or
other expensive and sensitive aircraft.

I've been told by several military pilots that they really like
trainers, though, and would choose those for their personal aircraft
if they could.

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Old September 10th 06, 10:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Roger (K8RI)
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 02:27:37 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:

On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 20:20:42 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote in :

If you want to fly military aircraft, you're out of luck
unless you started at age 20 and ...


Not really:

http://www.combataircraft.com/aircraft/tl39.aspx
Designed and built by Aero Vodochody in Czechoslovakia, the L-39C
is a tandem-seat, single engine jet warbird, originally designed
to be a pilot trainer. The L-39 Albatros has been flown by
numerous Eastern European air forces since 1974. Many L-39s are
now owned privately throughout the world. The L-39 is considered
to be one of the most popular jet warbirds in the world.


And to think I almost purchased one of these (relatively low time and
in good shape) plus a brand new spare engine still in the can less
than 10 years ago for about the same price I paid for the Debonair.
THAT would have been a *good* investment!


snip
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
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Old September 12th 06, 09:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
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And to think I almost purchased one of these (relatively low time and
in good shape) plus a brand new spare engine still in the can less
than 10 years ago for about the same price I paid for the Debonair.
THAT would have been a *good* investment!


Calculate the hours (or perhaps distances) that you've flown in the last 10
years and see how much fuel you would have used in the L-39... It might be
interesting to see how the numbers work out once you factor that in... Might
as well factor in the cost of annual inspections... Surely they are more
expensive than the Deb, right? Also, I wonder what the difference in the
insurance would be each year.... Personally, I have a bit of trouble
justifying
something that burns 130 gph on it's *economical* setting...



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Old September 9th 06, 07:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Thomas Borchert writes:

Why? It's one of the safest modes of transportation.


It's also the most frustrating. Hours to get to the airport, hours to
get past the paranoia of incompetent security staff, another hour to
get aboard, another hour waiting to leave the gate, a short period in
the air with tons of traffic all around, above, and below you, and
then another couple of hours at the other end.

All of this is avoided in simulation. You start the engines and go.
When you are done, you stop.

Do you drive?


Not if I can avoid it. I exhausted the novelty of driving years ago,
and most real-world driving today involves frustrations of its own.

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Old September 10th 06, 09:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Mxsmanic,

It's also the most frustrating. Hours to get to the airport, hours to
get past the paranoia of incompetent security staff, another hour to
get aboard, another hour waiting to leave the gate, a short period in
the air with tons of traffic all around, above, and below you, and
then another couple of hours at the other end.


Coudln't agree less. If, after that "short period in the air", I arrive
6000 miles from where I usually live, the exitment is all worth it. But
I take it you're not much into real life.

All of this is avoided in simulation. You start the engines and go.
When you are done, you stop.


What's simulation got to do with flying?

Do you drive?


Not if I can avoid it.


Well, what can I say. You live a weird life.

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