Flaps on take-off and landing

Mxsmanic,

again, you're talking about stuff you have no clue about.

We may have different standards of halfway decent.

You asked if you could buy and fly for 30k. You can. No mention about
what kind of plane.

Ah yes ... the $15K certificate that requires perfect health.

You have been told about the prices and that they are much lower. If
you prefer to continue not believing the facts, you come across more
ridiculous. Your choice.

Oh, and you could do that in France, too. Maybe you'd pay
15k.

For the license alone, yes, according to what pilots here in France
have told me.

More BS. The license in Europe is more expensive, however, it is not
15k. Yes, I fly in Germany.

In general, you can multiply U.S. prices by 2-3 or
more.

BS.

Listen, if you don't want to fly, so be it. But don't try to
rationalize it. It's your choice, period. No sorry excuses.


--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas Borchert writes:

Listen, if you don't want to fly, so be it. But don't try to
rationalize it.

If you want to fly, so be it. But don't try to say that it's not
extremely expensive.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Thomas Borchert writes:

Listen, if you don't want to fly, so be it. But don't try to
rationalize it.

If you want to fly, so be it. But don't try to say that it's not
extremely expensive.


Can you read? rec.aviation.piloting. That group is for people who find
pleasure or interest in piloting. You're obviously not piloting, and
you're obviously not interested in it as you're trying to convince
everybody that what they're doing is too expensive for them. If someone
wants to fly and is not a complete looser he or she will find a way to
do that.

So, why don't you just find another group?


Leonard

Leonard Milcin Jr. writes:

Can you read? rec.aviation.piloting. That group is for people who find
pleasure or interest in piloting.

That doesn't mean that they have to pretend it's cheap.

You're obviously not piloting, and you're obviously not interested in
it as you're trying to convince everybody that what they're doing is
too expensive for them.

It's too expensive for me. I don't know if it's too expensive for
them. However, I do know that it's expensive.

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Leonard Milcin Jr. writes:

Can you read? rec.aviation.piloting. That group is for people who find
pleasure or interest in piloting.

That doesn't mean that they have to pretend it's cheap.

You're obviously not piloting, and you're obviously not interested in
it as you're trying to convince everybody that what they're doing is
too expensive for them.

It's too expensive for me. I don't know if it's too expensive for
them. However, I do know that it's expensive.


"Expensive" is a relative term. Is $400,000 expensive for a house? In
some parts of the country, yes. In other areas, it would be so cheap you
would think something was seriously wrong with it.

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

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Marty Shapiro writes:

"Expensive" is a relative term. Is $400,000 expensive for a house?

By a factor of ten or so, yes.

In some parts of the country, yes. In other areas, it would be so cheap you
would think something was seriously wrong with it.

I go by the construction cost, as opposed to the sale price. Most
homes priced at $400,000 don't cost $400,000 to build.

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Mxsmanic,

"Expensive" is a relative term. Is $400,000 expensive for a house?

By a factor of ten or so, yes.


Oh? Can you get me one of those 40,000-$-houses in your neighborhood in
Paris?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Marty Shapiro writes:

"Expensive" is a relative term. Is $400,000 expensive for a house?

By a factor of ten or so, yes.

In some parts of the country, yes. In other areas, it would be so
cheap you would think something was seriously wrong with it.

I go by the construction cost, as opposed to the sale price. Most
homes priced at $400,000 don't cost $400,000 to build.


Does your construction cost figure in the cost of the land? How about the
carrying costs (interest either paid or lost opportunity), inspection
costs, and property taxes until the sale completes? Are the architects,
builder, and the subcontractors allowed to make any money, or do they just
supply their time and effort gratis?

There are areas in California where houses are sold in the $1,000,000 price
range and immediately torn down. Just the land is worth the purchase
price. The "construction" cost is the cost of the land + demolition cost +
building cost.

Do you have any idea what the 3 most important factors in determining the
market value of a house are? Hint: Construction cost is NOT one of them.

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

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On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:47:02 GMT, Marty Shapiro
wrote in
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Is $400,000 expensive for a house? In
some parts of the country, yes. In other areas, it would be so cheap you
would think something was seriously wrong with it.


Like this one:
http://www.realtor.com/FindHome/Home...3&lnksrc=00002

$839,000
2 Bed, 1 Bath
940 Sq. Ft.

Property Features
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Single Family Property
Area: East of State
County: Santa Barbara
Subdivision: 15 - Mission Canyon
Year Built: 1950
2 total bedroom(s)
1 total bath(s)
1 total full bath(s)
Approximately 940 sq. ft.
Heating features: Gas
Interior features: Dining area, Refrigerator, Wood flrs
Exterior features: Level lot, Storage/out-building(s)
Approximate lot is 60x99

Mxsmanic,

But don't try to say that it's not
extremely expensive.


It isn't. The facts have been explained to you. You have provided no
evidence at all to the contrary. You can (and obviously do) ignore the
facts, but you look very stupid doing that. Then again, you don't seem
to care much about that, because that's about all you do on this group.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)