Cessna Cardinal 177 RG II v. Piper Arrow III (70s) v. Piper Arrow III (brand new)

"Matt Whiting" wrote:

Insurance for a retract can easily be three times that for a similar
fixed gear.

??

My insurance is $1,400/year on $90k hull. How much would a stiff leg 172
be?

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

Dan Luke wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote:


Insurance for a retract can easily be three times that for a similar
fixed gear.


??

My insurance is $1,400/year on $90k hull. How much would a stiff leg 172
be?

Beats me, ask your insurance company. :-)

My 1967 182 was less than $1,000 a year for liability and hull
insurance. The 1967 Arrow I now fly (owned by a flying club) costs
$4,000 a year for less coverage. My partner and I had to have $1MM
smooth liability as I flew on company business and they required that.
The Arrow has $700/$100 and we can't even get $1MM smooth anymore.


Matt

Dan Luke wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote:


Insurance for a retract can easily be three times that for a similar
fixed gear.


??

My insurance is $1,400/year on $90k hull. How much would a stiff leg 172
be?


It wouldn't be three times. My 67 182 was usually right at $1000 for a
$70K hull. My Bo is $2200 this year with a $90K hull. That's on its
way down as I got the Bo with zero retract time last year. I would
expect the premium to be in the $1800 range next year.

Newps wrote:

It wouldn't be three times. My 67 182 was usually right at $1000 for a
$70K hull. My Bo is $2200 this year with a $90K hull. That's on its
way down as I got the Bo with zero retract time last year. I would
expect the premium to be in the $1800 range next year.

Congrats on the upgrade.. hope you like it.. I've always liked the
Bonanza ride.. just not the bonanza price/cost of operation/cost of parts..

Dave

Dave S wrote:
Newps wrote:


It wouldn't be three times. My 67 182 was usually right at $1000 for
a $70K hull. My Bo is $2200 this year with a $90K hull. That's on
its way down as I got the Bo with zero retract time last year. I
would expect the premium to be in the $1800 range next year.


Congrats on the upgrade.. hope you like it.. I've always liked the
Bonanza ride.. just not the bonanza price/cost of operation/cost of parts..

I've seen little difference in cost from my 182. Total operating cost
is lower as I burn a lot less gas in the local area.

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:59:38 -0600, Newps wrote:



Dave S wrote:
Newps wrote:


It wouldn't be three times. My 67 182 was usually right at $1000 for
a $70K hull. My Bo is $2200 this year with a $90K hull. That's on
its way down as I got the Bo with zero retract time last year. I
would expect the premium to be in the $1800 range next year.


Congrats on the upgrade.. hope you like it.. I've always liked the
Bonanza ride.. just not the bonanza price/cost of operation/cost of parts..

I've seen little difference in cost from my 182. Total operating cost
is lower as I burn a lot less gas in the local area.


Having flown from the four main islands, whilst on vacation, you might
consider throwing cross-winds into the equation when you make your
decision.

wrote:

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:59:38 -0600, Newps wrote:



Dave S wrote:

Newps wrote:


It wouldn't be three times. My 67 182 was usually right at $1000 for
a $70K hull. My Bo is $2200 this year with a $90K hull. That's on
its way down as I got the Bo with zero retract time last year. I
would expect the premium to be in the $1800 range next year.


Congrats on the upgrade.. hope you like it.. I've always liked the
Bonanza ride.. just not the bonanza price/cost of operation/cost of parts..

I've seen little difference in cost from my 182. Total operating cost
is lower as I burn a lot less gas in the local area.



Having flown from the four main islands, whilst on vacation, you might
consider throwing cross-winds into the equation when you make your
decision.

What are you talking about?

Having flown from the four main islands, whilst on vacation, you might
consider throwing cross-winds into the equation when you make your
decision.

Which islands/airports did you fly in to? Theres a few fun ones here.

What are you talking about?

The fact that our winds are that messed up in Hawai'i, like I said
040@15G35, crosswind component plays a very minor role in my decision
as I've never had a crosswing component in Honolulu or Moloka'i of more
than 10 knots.