Flaps on take-off and landing

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Peter Duniho writes:

Not enough distinguishing features to make them useful landmarks.

But they are more likely to lead somewhere, aren't they? If you know
that you're above Interstate X, you could just follow it to wherever X
leads.

Though, that said, they can still be quite useful if you are in an
area with only a few roads, or you already have a pretty good idea of
where you are, or you cross-reference a road or railroad or similar
feature with some more distinctive feature.

How do you look out the window? It seems that the instrument panel is
pretty imposing in most aircraft, and often the nose of the plane
extends well beyond it, so it doesn't look like you'd be able to see
the ground straight ahead. Do you just glance out the side windows,
or what?


No more so than the hood of a car extends beyond the front window. You
can't see the ground immediately in front of you, but you can see the
ground in front of you. The instrument panel is only imposing when you are
not a pilot. After a while, it is no more imposing than the "instrument
panel" in your car. Even when you are on an IFR flight, if the weather
conditions are VMC, you've got to look out of the window. You also have to
be able to see in front of you to taxi to the runway. And unless you, the
aircraft, and the runway are all CAT III rated, you've got to be able to
see in front of you to land.

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Marty Shapiro writes:

No more so than the hood of a car extends beyond the front window. You
can't see the ground immediately in front of you, but you can see the
ground in front of you.

How much of the runway can you see from the cockpit?

The instrument panel is only imposing when you are not a pilot.

Pilots must be extremely tall, then.

After a while, it is no more imposing than the "instrument
panel" in your car. Even when you are on an IFR flight, if the weather
conditions are VMC, you've got to look out of the window. You also have to
be able to see in front of you to taxi to the runway.

At the viewing angles I see for small craft (particular those that
don't sit level on the ground), it should be practically impossible to
see much of the runway.

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Marty Shapiro writes:

No more so than the hood of a car extends beyond the front window.
You can't see the ground immediately in front of you, but you can see
the ground in front of you.

How much of the runway can you see from the cockpit?

All but about 3 feet in front of the nose. That's better than 99.99%
of the runway.


The instrument panel is only imposing when you are not a pilot.

Pilots must be extremely tall, then.

No, you simply raise or lower the seat as appropriate.

After a while, it is no more imposing than the "instrument
panel" in your car. Even when you are on an IFR flight, if the
weather conditions are VMC, you've got to look out of the window.
You also have to be able to see in front of you to taxi to the
runway.

At the viewing angles I see for small craft (particular those that
don't sit level on the ground), it should be practically impossible to
see much of the runway.

True for tail draggers, but in a tricycle gear aircraft you have an
excellent view of the runway.



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The Super Decathlon I flew for aerobatic lessons (a taildragger) has
excellent over the nose visibility on the ground...better than my tripacer.
I had a hard time levelling out at altitude because the view was almost too
good. I kept unconsciously trying to get the same sight picture I was used
to in my TP.

mike

"Marty Shapiro" wrote in message
True for tail draggers, but in a tricycle gear aircraft you have an
excellent view of the runway.



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"mike regish" wrote in message
. ..
The Super Decathlon I flew for aerobatic lessons (a taildragger) has
excellent over the nose visibility on the ground...better than my
tripacer.
I had a hard time levelling out at altitude because the view was almost
too
good. I kept unconsciously trying to get the same sight picture I was used
to in my TP.

mike

Mike, in case you didn't know:

1) Billy sold the Decathlon and bought an Extra-200.

2) He got married last weekend.

Tell him congratulations for me.

Will he be giving lessons in the Extra 200? I might have to save a few bucks
up to try that baby.

mike

"Steve Foley" wrote in message
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"mike regish" wrote in message
. ..
The Super Decathlon I flew for aerobatic lessons (a taildragger) has
excellent over the nose visibility on the ground...better than my
tripacer.
I had a hard time levelling out at altitude because the view was almost
too
good. I kept unconsciously trying to get the same sight picture I was
used
to in my TP.

mike

Mike, in case you didn't know:

1) Billy sold the Decathlon and bought an Extra-200.

2) He got married last weekend.

On 2006-09-18, mike regish wrote:
The Super Decathlon I flew for aerobatic lessons (a taildragger) has
excellent over the nose visibility on the ground...better than my tripacer.

The Tripacer, however, is notable for having terrible over the nose
visibility. I have to sit on a booster cushion to get anything like
adequate forward visibility in a Tripacer! Same thing goes for the
Cherokee Six - with the slightly tail down attitude it has on the ground
and the unfeasably large conk, I get better forward visibility when
taxiing most taildraggers compared to taxiing a Cherokee Six.

The Decathalon is about normal for over the nose visibility in the air
and better than the average taildragger on the ground. (The Cessna 170
is the best taildragger for forward vis on the ground - better than most
nosewheel planes thanks to a high seating position)

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Some of that depends on the panel the TP has. Mine doesn't have the hump in
the middle, so it's not really that bad.

mike

"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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The Tripacer, however, is notable for having terrible over the nose
visibility. I have to sit on a booster cushion to get anything like
adequate forward visibility in a Tripacer!

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 07:53:43 -0400, "mike regish"
wrote:

The Super Decathlon I flew for aerobatic lessons (a taildragger) has
excellent over the nose visibility on the ground...better than my tripacer.
I had a hard time levelling out at altitude because the view was almost too
good. I kept unconsciously trying to get the same sight picture I was used
to in my TP.

When I let Cherokee and 172 pilots fly the Deb we end up constantly
climbing. That is after we get rid of the PIO.:-))

mike

"Marty Shapiro" wrote in message
True for tail draggers, but in a tricycle gear aircraft you have an
excellent view of the runway.



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Marty Shapiro writes:

No, you simply raise or lower the seat as appropriate.

Is it a power seat, or do you have to crank it manually, or do you
have to get off the seat to adjust it, or what?

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