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Jay Honeck wrote:
It's some sort of a solid-state thing, with what looks like maybe a luminescent strip behind the words/sybols? You can get night-lights like this; they are very thin and flat and emit kind of a greenish glow. If you've seen one of these signs illuminated and it was kind of greenish, than that may be what you have, and it probably takes AC. Or, it could be surface-mount LEDs on a thin circuit board; that could take either AC or DC. Are there any polarity markings (+, -, GND, etc) on it? What color are the lead wires, if any? There would be no room for any kind of a bulb. Since the 9 VDC didn't impress it, I'd probably vote for the 28 VAC 400 Hz or 115 VAC 400 Hz options that have been suggested. If it wanted 12 V DC, the 9 V battery should probably have made it light up (if it was connected the right way around). If it wants 28 V DC, the 9 V battery might have made _something_ happen, but maybe not... if you've got some more 9 V batteries, you might try two or three of them in series. If three in series doesn't impress it, then it's probably AC. You can test the 28 VAC case first with a transformer with a 120 V primary and a 24 V secondary. You can buy one at Rat Shock, or look around at the wall-warts on the gadgets you have until you find one that has an AC secondary. Most of them are DC, but answering machines often have an 18 VAC transformer (which is probably close enough for this test) for some reason. If something between 18 and 24 VAC doesn't impress it, then it's time to (CAREFULLY) try 120 V AC. If you're brave you can just stick the wires in the wall socket and see what happens. Or, wire something like a 4 W incandescent night-light bulb in _series_ with the sign before plugging it in. This will act as a current limiter; if the incandescent bulb lights up brightly, then unplug the sign immediately. More likely the bulb will light up dimly or not at all, but the sign will light up, which is what you want. If the sign lights up OK with the bulb in series, you can probably dispense with the bulb and run the sign directly from the wall socket. If it turns out the sign does take AC, I'm not sure what will happen long term if you feed it 60 Hz instead of 400 Hz. If it's LEDs inside there, it probably won't care at all, as the AC is probably getting rectified to DC right away. If it's an electroluminescent panel, though, it might care - as I understand it an EL panel is basically a light-emitting capacitor, and it might be less happy with other than the design frequency. You could feed it with an "official" DC-to-400 Hz AC inverter - a quick Google gives http://www.kgselectronics.com/SC3.CAT.html or http://www.kgselectronics.com/SD3.htm , but just the mating connector for those boxes is liable to cost you three or four times what you paid for the sign. Standard disclaimers apply. Be careful when working with mains voltage. I don't get money or other considerations from any companies mentioned. Matt Roberds |
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