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Old September 19th 06, 03:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Sylvain
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Default ATP wants a single engine add on

Emily wrote:

I'm guessing that when he got his ATP, he should have surrendered his
commercial but didn't for some reason.


one pretty good reason not to surrender a certificate when you upgrade
it, is if said certificate has a rating which you do not want to give
up and which is not covered by the new certificate. Although this is not
exactly germane to this discussion, I did keep my old private certificate
(obtained under 61.75 (*)) even though I now have a commercial, because
said private certificate still has my glider rating on it; could it
be a similar situation?

--Sylvain

(*) before someone jumps all over me quoting 61.75(b)(3), whereby
you cannot get a certificate under 61.75 if you already hold a US pilot
certificate, nothing prevents you from keeping it after you get
a US certificate. But I digress :-)
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Old September 19th 06, 03:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Default ATP wants a single engine add on

Sylvain wrote:
Emily wrote:

I'm guessing that when he got his ATP, he should have surrendered his
commercial but didn't for some reason.


one pretty good reason not to surrender a certificate when you upgrade
it, is if said certificate has a rating which you do not want to give
up and which is not covered by the new certificate.


Yes, but he had a commercial multi limited to centerline thrust and got
an unrestricted ATP multi. That doesn't make any sense. Why keep a
centerline thrust restriction?
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Old September 19th 06, 12:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Allen[_1_]
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Default ATP wants a single engine add on


"Emily" wrote in message
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Sylvain wrote:
Emily wrote:

I'm guessing that when he got his ATP, he should have surrendered his
commercial but didn't for some reason.


one pretty good reason not to surrender a certificate when you upgrade
it, is if said certificate has a rating which you do not want to give
up and which is not covered by the new certificate.


Yes, but he had a commercial multi limited to centerline thrust and got
an unrestricted ATP multi. That doesn't make any sense. Why keep a
centerline thrust restriction?


From what I have seen the ratings are all on one card. My ATP is for
multi-engine and it says on it "commercial privileges - SEL". When I
received my new card in the mail my old commercial card that I had
surrendered was with it also. The FAA thought I might like it back since it
was an original issue and I had been packing it for 18 years. They did
punch a hole in it though.

Allen


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Old September 19th 06, 05:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Gardner
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Default ATP wants a single engine add on

My SMEL ATP certificate says "Commercial privileges - single engine sea."
You don't get to keep the old certificate because any ratings are carried
forward onto the new one. I had to give mine up when I took my initial
(multi) ATP ride.

Bob Gardner

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Emily wrote:

I'm guessing that when he got his ATP, he should have surrendered his
commercial but didn't for some reason.


one pretty good reason not to surrender a certificate when you upgrade
it, is if said certificate has a rating which you do not want to give
up and which is not covered by the new certificate. Although this is not
exactly germane to this discussion, I did keep my old private certificate
(obtained under 61.75 (*)) even though I now have a commercial, because
said private certificate still has my glider rating on it; could it
be a similar situation?

--Sylvain

(*) before someone jumps all over me quoting 61.75(b)(3), whereby
you cannot get a certificate under 61.75 if you already hold a US pilot
certificate, nothing prevents you from keeping it after you get
a US certificate. But I digress :-)



 




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