Flaps on take-off and landing

Mxsmanic wrote:
Margy Natalie writes:


If you want to fly in a tin can go commercial. Why would I want to ride
in a Greyhound bus when I can drive my Audi?


That doesn't answer my question. How much would it cost to rent a 737
instead of a tiny plastic plane? Just because you prefer a tiny plane
for your leisure doesn't mean that everyone else feels the same way.

In reality, I don't know of any practical way to fly large jets in
real life for pleasure. Even John Travolta doesn't seem to get around
much in his 707, and it's a crusty old airframe compared to the modern
aircraft that some of us might prefer to fly (I'm sure he had to
compromise, as I don't think he really prefers the 707 to more recent
equipment).

That's the same as saying I can't afford to own a car because who would
want a POS Audi when a Rolls is really the only choice! You seem to
want everyone to think flying is only for the rich and famous, when in
reality it's for anyone who wants to make it a reality. No, you can't
have a 747, but you can't have a Rolls either. If you drive a ****box
you might have to fly an ultra-light, if you have the Rolls you might
have a G-4. Who would want a 747, they are old and big and lumber
through the skies. BTW Travolta used to have a Connie, now that was a
cool plane.

Margy

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:41:39 -0400, Margy Natalie
wrote in :

If you drive a ****box you might have to fly an ultra-light, i...

The majority of Parisians do not own automobiles.

Larry,

The majority of Parisians do not own automobiles.



Got a source for that? The city sure gives a different impression.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:00:03 +0200, Thomas Borchert
wrote in
:

Larry,

The majority of Parisians do not own automobiles.



Got a source for that?

No. I attempted to find relevant statistics, but was unsuccessful.

The city sure gives a different impression.

The roads are congested with traffic, but consider, where would
metropolitan Parisians garage their automobiles?

Larry,

The roads are congested with traffic, but consider, where would
metropolitan Parisians garage their automobiles?


Have you been there? The city is full of a) cars parked by the roadside
and b) parking garages.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:31:49 +0200, Thomas Borchert
wrote in
:

Larry,

The roads are congested with traffic, but consider, where would
metropolitan Parisians garage their automobiles?


Have you been there?

A few times. Have you been there?

The city is full of a) cars parked by the roadside

It is very difficult to find on-street parking in metropolitan Paris;
many park on the sidewalks. While the streets are full of
automobiles, many are taxis, buses, and delivery trucks, not family
automobiles.

Also, consider the number of riders on public transport (Metro,
busses), they far outnumber those riding in automobiles.

Suffice it to say, automobile ownership in Paris (and France, and
indeed Europe) is no where near mandatory as it is in the US.

and b) parking garages.

Other than the parking structure at CDG, I don't recall seeing many
parking garages at all.

Larry,

Suffice it to say, automobile ownership in Paris (and France, and
indeed Europe) is no where near mandatory as it is in the US.


Agreed.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Margy Natalie writes:

That's the same as saying I can't afford to own a car because who would
want a POS Audi when a Rolls is really the only choice!

I see no parallel.

You seem to want everyone to think flying is only for the rich
and famous, when in reality it's for anyone who wants to make
it a reality.

Like owning a home. Of course, lots of people aren't ever going to
own a home, because they just don't have the means.

Who would want a 747, they are old and big and lumber
through the skies.

I'd prefer a 737.

BTW Travolta used to have a Connie, now that was a cool plane.

He has moved up, then.

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On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:41:39 -0400, Margy Natalie
wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:
Margy Natalie writes:


If you want to fly in a tin can go commercial. Why would I want to ride
in a Greyhound bus when I can drive my Audi?


That doesn't answer my question. How much would it cost to rent a 737
instead of a tiny plastic plane? Just because you prefer a tiny plane
for your leisure doesn't mean that everyone else feels the same way.

In reality, I don't know of any practical way to fly large jets in
real life for pleasure. Even John Travolta doesn't seem to get around
much in his 707, and it's a crusty old airframe compared to the modern
aircraft that some of us might prefer to fly (I'm sure he had to
compromise, as I don't think he really prefers the 707 to more recent
equipment).

That's the same as saying I can't afford to own a car because who would
want a POS Audi when a Rolls is really the only choice! You seem to
want everyone to think flying is only for the rich and famous, when in
reality it's for anyone who wants to make it a reality. No, you can't
have a 747, but you can't have a Rolls either. If you drive a ****box
you might have to fly an ultra-light, if you have the Rolls you might
have a G-4. Who would want a 747, they are old and big and lumber
through the skies. BTW Travolta used to have a Connie, now that was a
cool plane.

Amen!

We were taking off from Detroit metro with a Connie rolling out in
front of us and a 707 on short final. We went over the Connie as it
turned off and the 707 rolled past under us. That sure was a pretty
sight. (Things were a bit different back in those days):-))



Margy
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