Flaps on take-off and landing

Mxsmanic wrote:
Peter Duniho writes:


Here is where I find myself agreeing with the people that say you make a LOT
of supposedly factual statements about flying that are based on faulty
information. That is, your believe that a computer simulation (and
Microsoft Flight Simulator in particular) is accurate enough for you to
actually know what you're talking about when it comes to flying.


It's not really based on Flight Simulator. It's based on a common
complaint I've heard from people who are contemplating a real pilot's
license.


Please, you do NOT know what you are talking about when it comes to
*flying*. Piloting a sim, I'm sure you know lots. But you consistently get
it wrong when you try to apply that experience to real flying. You would do
well to leave your assumptions behind, and restrict yourself to asking
questions.


You would do well to leave your personal attacks behind, and restrict
yourself to answering questions. There are plenty of people who
specialize in the former, and very few qualified to handle the latter.

I think you are being overly sensitive. Many of the things you say are
a "common complaint you've heard ..." are absolutely UNTRUE. I'm SHORT,
in a 172 I use a booster seat, but not in the Navion. I can see
everything!! You can see as much of the runway in front of you as you
can from the car.

You might know sims, but you don't know airplanes, nor do you understand
the real costs of flying, although I have heard it is more expensive in
Europe.

Margy

Margy Natalie writes:

I think you are being overly sensitive.

I am refractory to personal attacks, but that does not prevent me from
recognizing them, and they are not germane to the discussion.

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On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:57:15 -0400, Margy Natalie
wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:
Peter Duniho writes:


Here is where I find myself agreeing with the people that say you make a LOT
of supposedly factual statements about flying that are based on faulty
information. That is, your believe that a computer simulation (and
Microsoft Flight Simulator in particular) is accurate enough for you to
actually know what you're talking about when it comes to flying.


It's not really based on Flight Simulator. It's based on a common
complaint I've heard from people who are contemplating a real pilot's
license.


Please, you do NOT know what you are talking about when it comes to
*flying*. Piloting a sim, I'm sure you know lots. But you consistently get
it wrong when you try to apply that experience to real flying. You would do
well to leave your assumptions behind, and restrict yourself to asking
questions.


You would do well to leave your personal attacks behind, and restrict
yourself to answering questions. There are plenty of people who
specialize in the former, and very few qualified to handle the latter.

I think you are being overly sensitive. Many of the things you say are
a "common complaint you've heard ..." are absolutely UNTRUE. I'm SHORT,
in a 172 I use a booster seat, but not in the Navion. I can see

You should see Joyce in the Deb. She can not reach the floor with her
feet and on top of that uses the booster seat so she can see over the
nose.
OTOH The Deb has fantastic visibility in the air although I'd guess
the Navion has better visibility.

Roger (K8RI) wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:57:15 -0400, Margy Natalie
wrote:


I think you are being overly sensitive. Many of the things you say are
a "common complaint you've heard ..." are absolutely UNTRUE. I'm SHORT,
in a 172 I use a booster seat, but not in the Navion. I can see


You should see Joyce in the Deb. She can not reach the floor with her
feet and on top of that uses the booster seat so she can see over the
nose.
OTOH The Deb has fantastic visibility in the air although I'd guess
the Navion has better visibility.

One of the reasons we got the Navion is that it was one of VERY few
aircraft that both Ron (6'1") and I (5'2", when I round UP) could fly.
With the new interior (new foam too) I don't even use the booster seat
anymore :-),

Margy

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:51:38 -0400, Margy Natalie
wrote:

Roger (K8RI) wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:57:15 -0400, Margy Natalie
wrote:


I think you are being overly sensitive. Many of the things you say are
a "common complaint you've heard ..." are absolutely UNTRUE. I'm SHORT,
in a 172 I use a booster seat, but not in the Navion. I can see


You should see Joyce in the Deb. She can not reach the floor with her
feet and on top of that uses the booster seat so she can see over the
nose.
OTOH The Deb has fantastic visibility in the air although I'd guess
the Navion has better visibility.

One of the reasons we got the Navion is that it was one of VERY few
aircraft that both Ron (6'1") and I (5'2", when I round UP) could fly.

Margy, you are quite tall compared to Joyce.

With the new interior (new foam too) I don't even use the booster seat
anymore :-),

Margy
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com