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Old September 20th 06, 01:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default Is rudder required for coordinated turns?

mike regish writes:

Yes. The rudder pedals move with aileron control inputs. And yes, they can
be moved independently of the ailerons due to the spring configuration.


So they move, but you can feel the movement and override it if you
want? I guess that's okay. I have an aversion to true fly-by-wire
systems, but if you know what it's doing and you can override it, it's
probably still safe.

It makes slipping down final in a crosswind a little more difficult since you
have the usual control forces due to aerodynamic pressure plus the pressure
applied by the springs. That's why I prefer to crab down final and
straighten out just before the wheels touch down. That's also easier on the
passengers.


The crabbing technique is the only one I've tried in the sim thus far.
It was impossible with just a keyboard; adding a joystick made it
possible, although it's not easy.

A J-3 is a Piper Cub.


Thanks.

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Old September 20th 06, 05:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Default Is rudder required for coordinated turns?


Mxsmanic wrote:
mike regish writes:

Yes. The rudder pedals move with aileron control inputs. And yes, they can
be moved independently of the ailerons due to the spring configuration.


So they move, but you can feel the movement and override it if you
want? I guess that's okay. I have an aversion to true fly-by-wire
systems, but if you know what it's doing and you can override it, it's
probably still safe.


You can feel it slightly. However it takes very little effort to
override it by pressing the rudder. Actually, in my Mooney is gives a
bit too much rudder such that I give a little bit of outside rudder
when I roll into a turn.

This works the same as your Cessna nosewheel vs rudder. On the ground
the rudder on the Cessna is a little harder to press because you are
moving the tire against the pavement but you can still get rull
deflection of the rudder.

-Robert

 




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