Dress Code

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...

"Maule Driver" wrote in message
...
B A R R Y wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:


Dress is often used to hide incompetence.


Is that why France considers itself the fashion hub of the world?

Or the sexiest?

Hairy armpits are sexy?


Don't forget the once a week shower and wearing the same clothes all week.
Fridays got rather disgusting and these were professional people.

In article .com,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Because in a private company, without all the ridiculous "work rules"
that Federal employees can currently hide behind, insubordinate
employees can be effectively weeded out.

Bear in mind that firing someone can be very difficult even in
private companies without any unions to deal with.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message That's not the union way. No wonder they
are drying up.

Actually, ALPA will be party to the investigation of the Comair crash.

D.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
Really be a man, take some real risks, and face
the realities of the modern business world unprotected by union rules
that allow you to remain employed despite hating everything and
everyone around you.

----- Original Message -----
From: "mike regish"
To: "Jay Honeck"
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 9:05 PM
Subject: Dress Code



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Honeck"
Really be a man, take some real risks, and face
the realities of the modern business world unprotected by union rules
that allow you to remain employed despite hating everything and
everyone around you.

I wasn't going to even respond to any of these posts, but this one says it
all and needs a response. Then I'll go bye-bye again and let all you happy
assholes (apologies to those of you who aren't, and you know who you are)
live on in your merry little dream worlds.

"Really be a man..."

What a telling comment. That's what it takes to be a man. So I guess to you
I am, along with all the other stiffs who punch a clock and make this
country run, a lesser human being-not worthy of your respect.

"Take some real risks..."

So those of us who don't crave financial risk are lesser beings than you
and
obviously not worthy of yours, or any other...what? business
owners?-respect. I
always show respect until I've been shown that it is not deserved. I don't
care who you are, who you think you are, or what your station is. That goes
across the board. Guess where you sit, not that you care since I'm just a
lowly worker.

Tell ya what Jay. You jump off a 6,000 foot mountain in a hang glider in 25
mph winds and I'll start a business. When you do, I want to be there to see
your knees knocking and the **** stain growing in your pants. Or better
yet,
forget the hang glider.

unprotected by union rules
that allow you to remain employed

Or maybe that protect me from abuse by the likes of you and your other
vastly superior risk taking, business owning buddies here. But, that's just
silly, isn't it Jay? You and
all those manly business owners would never abuse a lowly creature like me
now, would you? Poor pathetic things that we are. Must be nice to feel
superior because you can take a REAL risk like running a business.

despite hating everything and
everyone around you.

I have found, after holding many jobs, that the job itself has little to
nothing to do with liking what you do. It is the people you work with that
make a job enjoyable. And I just happen to work with some of the best
people, by far, that I have ever known. What makes this largely possible
is
the fact that, through the union, we are all brothers. We may bicker among
ourselves at times, but when attacked, just like sibling brothers, we stand
together. Because there is a union, we have none of the backstabbing
amongst
ourselves to get ourselves ahead at the expense of a coworker. When the
"manly" boss (I don't know, Jay. Are bosses "men" or just business owners?)
Unfortunately, I also work FOR some of the worst I've ever known, with a
few
exceptions. That's is changing, and before I'm through, it will change
more.
I can see by some of these responses that I still have a lot of work to do.

You don't know jack **** about me Jay, but I know a whole lot about you
now.
You don't know a whole lot about about a lot of things and, sadly, you
never will. It's not me who needs to look in a mirror.

Have a nice life Jay. Hope your gimmick lasts.

That's pretty standard. NTSB brings together FAA, ALPA, NATCA and the
planes manufacturer. Other manufacturers of other components of the
plane as neceesary are also brought in.



Capt.Doug wrote:
"Dave Stadt" wrote in message That's not the union way. No wonder they

are drying up.

Actually, ALPA will be party to the investigation of the Comair crash.

D.

Andrew Gideon wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:23:23 +0000, B A R R Y wrote:

Besides, isn't NYC the real fashion capital? G

Only if you're into black.


Could be worse. In Seattle the standard dress code is rain parka,
cut-off jeans and hiking boots.

Personally, when I make the trek over (or under) the river into NYC I wear
clothes that really stand out in NYC, just to make a statement.

I wear gray.

- Andrew

"Jay Honeck" wrote in news:1158852986.770803.114910
@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:

large, very dumb corporations. If any further evidence of the need to
privatize the FAA is necessary, I will be very surprised.

I fail to see how privatization will fix the problem.

Because in a private company, without all the ridiculous "work rules"
that Federal employees can currently hide behind, insubordinate
employees can be effectively weeded out.

As it stands now, FAA management is obviously nothing but a paper
tiger. As an American taxpayer, I feel that this needs to change --
and I don't see any way for that to happen inside the Federal
government.

I wish it were otherwise, because I truly do believe that ATC should be
a governmental responsibility.

Big corporations are often just as political as the government.

Privatization isn't the answer.

Leadership is.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of big problems that our current leadership
has sunk this country into, and so the REAL problems of the FAA won't take
priority for a LONG time.

I agree. Privatization would be a disaster. At least the government
has public interest in mind, instead of profit.

!!!!!!????

I'd like to know what planet you're living on, because the one I
inhabit has NO government employees who aren't interested in profit.
At least I haven't met one, yet.

Thankfully, here in America the tradition of direct bribery and/or
extortion by government officials has never taken root -- but in some
cases I would actually prefer such a sharply defined method of doing
business. At least you'd know where you stood with people like that.

And I've met darned few government employees who have the "public
interest" in mind, now that I think about it. All they're interested
in is "procedure", "protocol", and their "pension" -- not necessarily
in that order -- and common sense and practicality be damned.

I could give you dozens of examples of what I'm talking about, but this
gets repetitive.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

!!!!!!????

I'd like to know what planet you're living on, because the one I
inhabit has NO government employees who aren't interested in profit.
At least I haven't met one, yet.


I hope you weren't an English major. This isn't what you meant to say.
You got confused with all your negatives.



And I've met darned few government employees who have the "public
interest" in mind, now that I think about it.



That's just dumb. My job is 100% public interest. I have no product to
sell, I simply provide a service on a first come, first served basis.

I hope you weren't an English major. This isn't what you meant to say.
You got confused with all your negatives.

I ain't not no more, dang it.

I was sputtering in writing, I was so taken aback by the question!

;-)

And I've met darned few government employees who have the "public
interest" in mind, now that I think about it.

That's just dumb. My job is 100% public interest. I have no product to
sell, I simply provide a service on a first come, first served basis.

I'm talking personal profit, as in pay, pension, and job security. In
my experience, government entities (and their employees) are primarily
concerned with self-replication, not "public interest".
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"