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Jose, for the last week or so, using Agent as my newsreader. your
posts fail to wordwrap. Is that something I can fix on my end?

I had reset my format to not wrap. Hard returns can be a pain, and I
didn't think there were many people with readers that don't autowrap.
I'm not familiar with Agent, so can't help you on that end, but I've
reset it again to wrap at 72.

Jose
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Jose wrote

Jose, for the last week or so, using Agent as my newsreader. your
posts fail to wordwrap. Is that something I can fix on my end?

I had reset my format to not wrap. Hard returns can be a pain, and I
didn't think there were many people with readers that don't autowrap.
I'm not familiar with Agent, so can't help you on that end, but I've
reset it again to wrap at 72.

Your posts did the same for me using Xnews.

Bob Moore

On 2006-09-21, Jay Honeck wrote:
large, very dumb corporations. If any further evidence of the need to
privatize the FAA is necessary, I will be very surprised.

I fail to see how privatization will fix the problem.

Because in a private company, without all the ridiculous "work rules"
that Federal employees can currently hide behind, insubordinate
employees can be effectively weeded out.

The Union will still be there, and the union can cause the same troubles
for a private company as it can for the Federal government, including
illegal walk-outs. That's the knub of the matter - privatizing the FAA
won't make the unions suddenly vanish or change attitude. If anything,
it'll cause attitudes to harden.

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I'm talking personal profit, as in pay, pension, and job security. In
my experience, government entities (and their employees) are primarily
concerned with self-replication, not "public interest".

You think your employees are different? They are doing it for the paycheck. Don't believe me? Ask them if they would work for you for nothing, just for the public service of helping to keep the rooms clean.

Of course they aren't different, in that regard. But, unlike the
Gummint, we don't go around pretending to be doing stuff for the
"public good" when, in fact, it's being done to line their pockets and
to perpetuate their own existence.

You, as a citizen, also have a CHOICE as to whether you pay for my
employees salaries (by choosing to stay here), unlike the coercion
perpetuated by a government that makes us pay for their employees (I'm
referring to all gummint employees -- not just ATC) whether we use them
or not.

Really, when you get right down to it, comparing employees from the
private sector with the public sector is ridiculous. One group is
highly efficient merit-based employment, while the other is
cradle-to-grave employment. There is simply no comparison between the
two.
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Jay Honeck writes:

I'd like to know what planet you're living on, because the one I
inhabit has NO government employees who aren't interested in profit.
At least I haven't met one, yet.

Most government employees care nothing about profit, at least in the
developed world.

Thankfully, here in America the tradition of direct bribery and/or
extortion by government officials has never taken root -- but in some
cases I would actually prefer such a sharply defined method of doing
business. At least you'd know where you stood with people like that.

Corrupt countries are universally poor.

And I've met darned few government employees who have the "public
interest" in mind, now that I think about it. All they're interested
in is "procedure", "protocol", and their "pension" -- not necessarily
in that order -- and common sense and practicality be damned.

But I said government, not government employees.

I know it's fashionable to knock public servants, but some of them
really do believe in the work they are doing, and public service is
important to them.

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But, unlike the
Gummint, we don't go around pretending to be doing stuff for the
"public good" when, in fact, it's being done to line their pockets and
to perpetuate their own existence.

Air traffic controllers are directing traffic to perpetuate their own
existence in a way that's different from hotel maids? You're not
runninig a hotel to line your own pocket? (not that you don't enjoy
your work, but would you do it if you weren't going to own a prospering
hotel at the end of it?) And don't tell me that your tax deductable
trips in Atlas, for "business purposes", aren't lining your own pocket
at our (taxpayer) expense. Were I to take those same trips, I'd be
paying double or triple, because I couldn't deduct ownership or
operating costs. You do get a sweet deal there.

I'm not saying that's a primary motivation - I know better. But to deny
that it's there, while accusing government employees of "lining their
own pockets" is more than a bit disingenuous.

You, as a citizen, also have a CHOICE as to whether you pay for my
employees salaries (by choosing to stay here), unlike the coercion
perpetuated by a government that makes us pay for their employees (I'm
referring to all gummint employees -- not just ATC) whether we use them
or not.

This is true. And I also don't have a choice as to whether or not I'm
protected by the Armed Forces of the United States of America, which is
out there right now defending our freedoms. I'm coerced into that too,
along with paying for roads I don't drive on, pollution cleanup I didn't
make, libraries I don't visit, schools I don't attend, trips to the moon
I'm not on, and subsidized junk mail I don't want.

Really, when you get right down to it, comparing employees from the
private sector with the public sector is ridiculous. One group is
highly efficient merit-based employment, while the other is
cradle-to-grave employment. There is simply no comparison between the
two.

Uhhh... "highly efficient merit-based employement"??? Private sector
companies don't make mistakes and go bankrupt? There's no corruption in
the private sector?

Yanno, I can see you don't like the impediments the government puts in
front of you as a business trying to do your thing. It can lead to alot
of resentment, because you don't get to do what you want, and what you
"know is right". But I suspect that the rest of the citizens really
appreciate the restraints you are under, because left to their own
devices, businesses do not care a whit about their surroundings, except
inasmuch as it affects their bottom line.

It is =private=business= that is lining their pockets and perpetuating
their own existence.

Jose
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it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:06:25 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:17:36 GMT, Don Tuite
wrote in
:

using Agent as my newsreader. your
posts fail to wordwrap. Is that something I can fix on my end?

Select Word Wrap on the View pull-down menu.

Thanks. It's actually in the "Message" PD Window, and it doesn't
affect Jose's posts.

Don

"Newps" wrote in message
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That's just dumb. My job is 100% public interest. I have no product to
sell, I simply provide a service on a first come, first served basis.

And your motive is?

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 04:42:33 GMT, Jose
wrote:

I'm talking personal profit, as in pay, pension, and job security. In
my experience, government entities (and their employees) are primarily
concerned with self-replication, not "public interest".

You think your employees are different? They are doing it for the
paycheck.
Don't believe me? Ask them if they would work for you for nothing, just
for
the public service of helping to keep the rooms clean.

You've inverted his response, Jose. Your response would be to explain how
government employees WOULD clean restrooms for free since their service is
NOT profit oriented.

Once people learn that human nature is self-serving, all this BS about
"public interest" would be seen for the fraud that it is.

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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message

Is that why France considers itself the fashion hub of the world?

Or the sexiest?

Hairy armpits are sexy?


Don't forget the once a week shower and wearing the same clothes all week.
Fridays got rather disgusting and these were professional people.

Ah, yes...the world's ultimate elite.