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Old September 24th 06, 07:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Marty Shapiro
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Ron Wanttaja wrote in
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:06:17 GMT, Marty Shapiro
wrote:

In looking through the FAA data base, several of the listed Rallye's
do not have a valid Airworthiness Certificate and some are flagged as
"status in question".


Hmmmm...if that's the FAA Registration Database you're looking at, the
code you're referring to (column 253) refers to the *registration*
status of the aircraft, not the airworthiness of it. The airplane
could be perfectly airworthy, but the owner may not have been keeping
his address up to date with the FAA.

Ron Wanttaja


It could very well be that it refers only to the registration status.

There are two different warnings which I've noticed. Both start with a
warning page stating "This aircraft's registration status may not be
suitable for operation.".

For an aircraft undergoing a change in owner, N302RA for example, the data
page shows the registered owner's name as "SALE REPORTED" and a status of
"In Question". It also shows the date for A/W under "Airworthiness"

For N344RA, the data page shows a status of "Revoked", and the
"Airworthiness" section is blank. I interpreted this to indicate the
aircrft no longer had an airworthiness certificate, but can see where the
"Revoked" refers only to the registration.

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Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

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Old September 24th 06, 09:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Ron Wanttaja
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:23:58 GMT, Marty Shapiro
wrote:

Ron Wanttaja wrote in
:

On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:06:17 GMT, Marty Shapiro
wrote:

In looking through the FAA data base, several of the listed Rallye's
do not have a valid Airworthiness Certificate and some are flagged as
"status in question".


Hmmmm...if that's the FAA Registration Database you're looking at, the
code you're referring to (column 253) refers to the *registration*
status of the aircraft, not the airworthiness of it. The airplane
could be perfectly airworthy, but the owner may not have been keeping
his address up to date with the FAA.


For an aircraft undergoing a change in owner, N302RA for example, the data
page shows the registered owner's name as "SALE REPORTED" and a status of
"In Question". It also shows the date for A/W under "Airworthiness"

For N344RA, the data page shows a status of "Revoked", and the
"Airworthiness" section is blank. I interpreted this to indicate the
aircrft no longer had an airworthiness certificate, but can see where the
"Revoked" refers only to the registration.


Yes, there is a separate column in the raw database called "Air Worth Date",
which I suspect is the date an airworthiness certificate was originally issued
for that aircraft. N344RA, as you say, is blank in this column, but I see it is
still registered to Rallye Aircraft Corporation. Six other Rallyes are also
blank. Hard to say what happened, but the registration database isn't perfect,
especially when the aircraft were built in the dawn of the digital database era.

It looks like that column isn't updated, while others ("Last Action
Date","Certificate Issue Date") are.

Column 253 of the Aircraft Master file includes the registration status of the
aircraft, with a single-digit code that translates as follows:

A - The Triennial Aircraft Registration form was mailed and has not been
returned by the Post Office
E - The Certificate of Aircraft Registration was revoked by enforcement action
M - Aircraft registered to the manufacturer under their Dealer Certificate
N - Foreign companies which have not returned their flight hour reports
R - Registration pending
S - Second Triennial Aircraft Registration Form has been mailed and has not been
returned by the Post Office
V - N-Number Assigned and Registered
X - Enforcement Letter
Z - Permanent Reserved
1 - Triennial Aircraft Registration form was returned by the Post Office as
undeliverable
2 - N-Number Assigned – but has not been Registered
3 - N-Number assigned as amateur-built - but not yet registered
4 - N-Number assigned as import - but not yet registered
5 - Reserved N-Number
6 - Administratively canceled
7 - Sale reported
8 - A second attempt has been made at mailing a Triennial Aircraft Registration
form to the owner with no response
9 - Certificate of Registration has been revoked

If you see these terms in the database you're looking into, that column covers
registration status.

Ron Wanttaja
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Old September 24th 06, 09:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Marty Shapiro
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Ron Wanttaja wrote in
:

On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:23:58 GMT, Marty Shapiro
wrote:

Ron Wanttaja wrote in
:

On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:06:17 GMT, Marty Shapiro
wrote:

In looking through the FAA data base, several of the listed
Rallye's do not have a valid Airworthiness Certificate and some
are flagged as "status in question".

Hmmmm...if that's the FAA Registration Database you're looking at,
the code you're referring to (column 253) refers to the
*registration* status of the aircraft, not the airworthiness of it.
The airplane could be perfectly airworthy, but the owner may not
have been keeping his address up to date with the FAA.


For an aircraft undergoing a change in owner, N302RA for example, the
data page shows the registered owner's name as "SALE REPORTED" and a
status of "In Question". It also shows the date for A/W under
"Airworthiness"

For N344RA, the data page shows a status of "Revoked", and the
"Airworthiness" section is blank. I interpreted this to indicate the
aircrft no longer had an airworthiness certificate, but can see where
the "Revoked" refers only to the registration.


Yes, there is a separate column in the raw database called "Air Worth
Date", which I suspect is the date an airworthiness certificate was
originally issued for that aircraft. N344RA, as you say, is blank in
this column, but I see it is still registered to Rallye Aircraft
Corporation. Six other Rallyes are also blank. Hard to say what
happened, but the registration database isn't perfect, especially when
the aircraft were built in the dawn of the digital database era.

It looks like that column isn't updated, while others ("Last Action
Date","Certificate Issue Date") are.

Column 253 of the Aircraft Master file includes the registration
status of the aircraft, with a single-digit code that translates as
follows:

A - The Triennial Aircraft Registration form was mailed and has not
been returned by the Post Office
E - The Certificate of Aircraft Registration was revoked by
enforcement action M - Aircraft registered to the manufacturer under
their Dealer Certificate N - Foreign companies which have not returned
their flight hour reports R - Registration pending
S - Second Triennial Aircraft Registration Form has been mailed and
has not been returned by the Post Office
V - N-Number Assigned and Registered
X - Enforcement Letter
Z - Permanent Reserved
1 - Triennial Aircraft Registration form was returned by the Post
Office as undeliverable
2 - N-Number Assigned – but has not been Registered
3 - N-Number assigned as amateur-built - but not yet registered
4 - N-Number assigned as import - but not yet registered
5 - Reserved N-Number
6 - Administratively canceled
7 - Sale reported
8 - A second attempt has been made at mailing a Triennial Aircraft
Registration form to the owner with no response
9 - Certificate of Registration has been revoked

If you see these terms in the database you're looking into, that
column covers registration status.

Ron Wanttaja


Thank you!

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Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

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