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  #91  
Old September 24th 06, 04:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Thomas Borchert
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Default Rudder for final runway alignment (?)

Mxsmanic,

If what you see or feel and what the instruments say disagree, trust
the instruments.


Ever the expert gamer.

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Old September 24th 06, 04:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Thomas Borchert
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Mxsmanic,

I get the impression that this newsgroup is haunted mainly by VFR
pilots. I didn't realize that there was such a large distinction
between the VFR mindset and the IFR mindset. No wonder VFR pilots are
often so helpless if the weather changes. Are pilots required to know
anything at all about instruments for VFR flight?


That clearly takes the cake. You are an arrogant pityful idiot. You
wasted a perfectly good chance to learn. No wonder your real life is as
miserable as you describe it if you show the same attitude in it that
you show here.

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  #93  
Old September 24th 06, 04:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Thomas Borchert
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Mxsmanic,

If that happens, you trust what you see out the window.


I don't.


You don't even have a window to look out. You have a monitor.

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  #94  
Old September 24th 06, 07:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Thomas Borchert writes:

Didn't you state somewhere else you were opposed to FBW? Kind of a
contradiction here....


Not really. You can disconnect the autopilot if you don't like the
way it's behaving. You cannot disconnect fly-by-wire systems. You
can fight against a misbehaving A/P by manhandling the yoke or stick
yourself, but if a fly-by-wire system decides to ignore your
"suggestions," you're out of luck.

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Old September 24th 06, 07:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Wade Hasbrouck
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Default Rudder for final runway alignment (?)

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Thomas Borchert writes:

Didn't you state somewhere else you were opposed to FBW? Kind of a
contradiction here....


Not really. You can disconnect the autopilot if you don't like the
way it's behaving. You cannot disconnect fly-by-wire systems. You
can fight against a misbehaving A/P by manhandling the yoke or stick
yourself, but if a fly-by-wire system decides to ignore your
"suggestions," you're out of luck.

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If the autopilot fails to disengage you can be in a world of trouble too...
It can happen, and has.

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Old September 25th 06, 05:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Mike,

Depending on the age, money can come from birthday cash, early holiday
(christmas?) gift, or a credit card (30 euro dollar per month min
payoff).


Work. You forgot good, honest work as a source.


He is in France. It's against the law.

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Old September 25th 06, 09:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Thomas Borchert
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Default Rudder for final runway alignment (?)

Mxsmanic,

Not really.


Yes, really. You stated the autopilot always flew better than the
pilot.


but if a fly-by-wire system decides to ignore your
"suggestions," you're out of luck.


Not really. It is certified to do the right thing. Name an accident
where an FBW system didn't.

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  #98  
Old September 25th 06, 03:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Wade Hasbrouck writes:

If the autopilot fails to disengage you can be in a world of trouble too...
It can happen, and has.


But you have a way to disengage the autopilot. You have no way to
disengage fly-by-wire; there is no manual override.

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Old September 25th 06, 03:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Thomas Borchert writes:

Not really. It is certified to do the right thing. Name an accident
where an FBW system didn't.


Habsheim.

There's a reason why they call it the Scarebus.

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Old September 25th 06, 04:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Wade Hasbrouck
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Wade Hasbrouck writes:

If the autopilot fails to disengage you can be in a world of trouble
too...
It can happen, and has.


But you have a way to disengage the autopilot. You have no way to
disengage fly-by-wire; there is no manual override.

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Which misses the point of my statement... "What do you do if the autopilot
does not disengage or is 'jammed'?" You need to be familiar with "What are
you going to do if it does not disengage or is 'jammed'?" I know there are
some procedures to follow for this situation, but not familiar with them as
the planes I fly do not have an autopilot.

 




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