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Old September 30th 06, 08:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Bob Gardner writes:

Does your instructor use a syllabus, and provide you with a copy? Hard to
tell from where I am sitting, but it seems to me that you are being pushed
into things you are not ready for. Successfully, apparently, but the key to
flight training is the building block concept, where each new maneuver
depends on a foundation of basic elements learned and mastered earlier.


It may be a business decision. Students are more likely to continue
their studies if they do things that are interesting. If the boring
stuff is saved for last, not only are they likely to pay for more
lessons, even if they eventually quit, but they are more likely to put
up with the boring stuff later, if they've already invested a lot of
money in lessons. If the boring stuff comes first, some students may
give up right there, which brings about quite a loss of revenue.

As long as everything is covered eventually, does the order make a
difference?

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Old September 30th 06, 09:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote
As long as everything is covered eventually, does the order make a
difference?


Sure as hell does...try teaching a student to read before he
learns the alphabet. He may memorize the book, but still does
not know how to read.

Bob Moore
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Old October 1st 06, 12:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bob Moore writes:

Sure as hell does...try teaching a student to read before he
learns the alphabet. He may memorize the book, but still does
not know how to read.


Public schools did that for decades in the US. Of course, they
produced several generations of illiterates in consequence.

However, in this case, it's not clear that one lesson is a
prerequisite for another. Must one learn to fly patterns before
learning to land? (Or vice versa?)

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Old October 1st 06, 02:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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As usual you know not of what you speak. Flight training needs to be
taught in a somewhat stringent order. The syllabus is created in a
specific way in order for the student to grasp the concepts and progress
through the training with a minimum of cash being sucked out of the
students wallet. Any CFI's out there care to expand on this?

Real flying is quite unlike the simulator the you play with. Real flying
does not come with a pause button if things get hairy. You must crawl
before you walk. Walk before you run ect..

As far as the public schools here in the US go... How would you know how
they teach here? Did you ever attend a US public school? I for one had
to learn the alphabet before I started reading.

You seem to have a habit of throwing out a bunch of BS answers for
subjects you have no experience in. It is quite incredible to observe
actually.

You obviously are a troll and this is the last time I'll waste
keystrokes on you.

Jon Kraus
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4443H @ UMP

Mxsmanic wrote:
Bob Moore writes:


Sure as hell does...try teaching a student to read before he
learns the alphabet. He may memorize the book, but still does
not know how to read.



Public schools did that for decades in the US. Of course, they
produced several generations of illiterates in consequence.

However, in this case, it's not clear that one lesson is a
prerequisite for another. Must one learn to fly patterns before
learning to land? (Or vice versa?)

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Old October 1st 06, 11:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Jon Kraus writes:

As usual you know not of what you speak. Flight training needs to be
taught in a somewhat stringent order. The syllabus is created in a
specific way in order for the student to grasp the concepts and progress
through the training with a minimum of cash being sucked out of the
students wallet.


Some schools may not wish to minimize the amount of revenue they
receive from each student.

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Old September 30th 06, 10:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
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It may be a business decision. Students are more likely to continue
their studies if they do things that are interesting. If the boring
stuff is saved for last, not only are they likely to pay for more
lessons, even if they eventually quit, but they are more likely to put
up with the boring stuff later, if they've already invested a lot of
money in lessons. If the boring stuff comes first, some students may
give up right there, which brings about quite a loss of revenue.


Always precede total BS with "may be." Makes it a safe
statement. But if you've never undergone any flight training,
much less have been a CFI, nor even ridden in a light GA
aircraft, you should accept the reality of how stupid your posts are.

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Old October 1st 06, 12:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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TxSrv writes:

Always precede total BS with "may be." Makes it a safe
statement. But if you've never undergone any flight training,
much less have been a CFI, nor even ridden in a light GA
aircraft, you should accept the reality of how stupid your posts are.


The principles I've described are valid for any type of teaching.

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