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NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...



 
 
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Old October 3rd 06, 06:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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NW_Pilot writes:

Ahh!!! Go to look here! http://skyhawksp.cessna.com/pricelist.chtml This
bird had every thing NAV III + some but the A/C! Them airbag seat belts are
not very comfortable either!


Are those prices for the avionics and options alone, or are they for
the entire aircraft _with_ those options?

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Old October 3rd 06, 07:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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NW_Pilot writes:

Ahh!!! Go to look here! http://skyhawksp.cessna.com/pricelist.chtml This
bird had every thing NAV III + some but the A/C! Them airbag seat belts
are
not very comfortable either!


Are those prices for the avionics and options alone, or are they for
the entire aircraft _with_ those options?

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Those are prices of the aircraft with the option package. So the Skyhawk
with the Nav III package is $241.000. Or, so you can understand the figure,
every cent you earn for the next 30+ years.


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Old October 4th 06, 05:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Those are prices of the aircraft with the option package. So the Skyhawk
with the Nav III package is $241.000. Or, so you can understand the figure,
every cent you earn for the next 30+ years.


Yes. Still cheaper than a Baron 58, the aircraft I like, which
apparently sells for just over a million dollars now. It's a rich
man's hobby.

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Old October 4th 06, 05:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Yes. Still cheaper than a Baron 58, the aircraft I like, which
apparently sells for just over a million dollars now. It's a rich
man's hobby.


I read the other day that a new Baron is selling for (I think) $1.7
million now.

Personally, I think you'd have to be dumber than a box of rocks to pay
that much for a Baron -- hell, you can get a nice biz-jet for less --
but there were apparently 17 people in 2005 that possessed the unique
dual-qualities of "dumb enough to do it, and rich enough to afford
it"...
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Old October 4th 06, 02:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

Jay Honeck wrote
Personally, I think you'd have to be dumber than a box of rocks to pay
that much for a Baron -- hell, you can get a nice biz-jet for less --
but there were apparently 17 people in 2005 that possessed the unique
dual-qualities of "dumb enough to do it, and rich enough to afford
it"...


Yes....but, He has to get training and a check flight in that
biz-jet every year....to fly the Baron, just a Flight Review
in a Cessna 172 every two years. I've done Flight Reviews for
a couple of guys who traded in their biz-jets for high performance
twins just because of age, the jet training/check at Flight Safety
became more than they could handle.

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Old October 4th 06, 03:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

Personally, I think you'd have to be dumber than a box of rocks to pay
that much for a Baron -- hell, you can get a nice biz-jet for less --
but there were apparently 17 people in 2005 that possessed the unique
dual-qualities of "dumb enough to do it, and rich enough to afford
it"...


Yes....but, He has to get training and a check flight in that
biz-jet every year....to fly the Baron, just a Flight Review
in a Cessna 172 every two years. I've done Flight Reviews for
a couple of guys who traded in their biz-jets for high performance
twins just because of age, the jet training/check at Flight Safety
became more than they could handle.


Good point -- but my comment was more aimed at the price of a new Baron
than at the quality of the pilots. I mean, my God -- $1.7 MILLION for
a piston twin? Given what that would buy on the slightly-used
market, it's just insane to give Raytheon that much money...
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Old October 4th 06, 04:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bela P. Havasreti
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

On 4 Oct 2006 07:59:38 -0700, "Jay Honeck" wrote:

Personally, I think you'd have to be dumber than a box of rocks to pay
that much for a Baron -- hell, you can get a nice biz-jet for less --
but there were apparently 17 people in 2005 that possessed the unique
dual-qualities of "dumb enough to do it, and rich enough to afford
it"...


Yes....but, He has to get training and a check flight in that
biz-jet every year....to fly the Baron, just a Flight Review
in a Cessna 172 every two years. I've done Flight Reviews for
a couple of guys who traded in their biz-jets for high performance
twins just because of age, the jet training/check at Flight Safety
became more than they could handle.


Good point -- but my comment was more aimed at the price of a new Baron
than at the quality of the pilots. I mean, my God -- $1.7 MILLION for
a piston twin? Given what that would buy on the slightly-used
market, it's just insane to give Raytheon that much money...


I agree.

1.7 Mil could buy you a whole collection of cool aircraft:

P-51 Mustang
T-6 Texan
Cessna 195
Cessna 180/185
Pitts
J-3 or Champ

Bela P. Havasreti
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Old October 4th 06, 11:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

Jay Honeck wrote:

Personally, I think you'd have to be dumber than a box of rocks to pay
that much for a Baron -- hell, you can get a nice biz-jet for less --
but there were apparently 17 people in 2005 that possessed the unique
dual-qualities of "dumb enough to do it, and rich enough to afford
it"...


Yes....but, He has to get training and a check flight in that
biz-jet every year....to fly the Baron, just a Flight Review
in a Cessna 172 every two years. I've done Flight Reviews for
a couple of guys who traded in their biz-jets for high performance
twins just because of age, the jet training/check at Flight Safety
became more than they could handle.



Good point -- but my comment was more aimed at the price of a new Baron
than at the quality of the pilots. I mean, my God -- $1.7 MILLION for
a piston twin? Given what that would buy on the slightly-used
market, it's just insane to give Raytheon that much money...


It's all relative. A lot of folks think that about any airplane
compared to a car. You can buy a ratty old airplane for $80,000 or a
brand new Lexus that is 10 times more comfortably and have money left
over for several nice vacations.

Matt
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Old October 4th 06, 07:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

Bob Moore writes:

Yes....but, He has to get training and a check flight in that
biz-jet every year....to fly the Baron, just a Flight Review
in a Cessna 172 every two years. I've done Flight Reviews for
a couple of guys who traded in their biz-jets for high performance
twins just because of age, the jet training/check at Flight Safety
became more than they could handle.


How did age interfere with it?

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Old October 4th 06, 07:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

Jay Honeck writes:

Personally, I think you'd have to be dumber than a box of rocks to pay
that much for a Baron -- hell, you can get a nice biz-jet for less --
but there were apparently 17 people in 2005 that possessed the unique
dual-qualities of "dumb enough to do it, and rich enough to afford
it"...


Is that a typical price range for a plane in the Baron's category? If
not, why is the Baron special?

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