Logging time as a CFI

Sylvain wrote:

are you multi- rated or not? were you the sole manipulator of
the controls? if you answered yes to both questions, then you
log PIC;


That first bit was referring to logging time while getting my CFII. I
log all time in the twin as dual given, since I don't have my multi.


while getting their private? it is was while flying solo, ok then; if
while receiving instruction (and they were not rated since getting their
private) then they shouldn't be logging PIC.

I know of two people who logged all time they flew with an instructor
as both dual and PIC.


it is kinda disturbing because as a CFI you should know this stuff
inside out, since you are supposed to be able to teach it...

I don't know everything there is to know about aviation inside and out.
Nobody does. What I think is disturbing are those out there who THINK
they know everything inside and out. They are the ones you look out
for.

As a CFI I see myself as an educator more than anything else. I know a
lot of CFI's view themselves strictly as flesh and bones aviation
encyclopedias. They see their job as to just be able to spit out any
bit of aviation knowledge -- no matter how obscure -- at a moments
notice, and thats it. I, on the other hand, feel the way you present
that knowledge is more important.

Anyways, I think what I just said is about to cause a multi-hundred
post flamefest, but whatever.

I don't know everything there is to know about aviation inside and out.
Nobody does. What I think is disturbing are those out there who THINK
they know everything inside and out. They are the ones you look out
for.

Amen!

And ridiculing people for asking a question, even one that seems "dumb"
(because you already know the answer) helps dissuade people from asking
those questions.

There are lots of CFIs who teach incorrect stuff because they didn't
know it, didn't know they didn't know it, and thought they knew it.
Being open to CFIs asking questions is one way to reduce these numbers.

Jose
--
"Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where
it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
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buttman wrote:

I don't know everything there is to know about aviation inside and out.
Nobody does. What I think is disturbing are those out there who THINK
they know everything inside and out. They are the ones you look out
for.

We were not talking about arcane aviation knowledge, but about a basic
understanding of 14 CFR 61 which as a CFI you should indeed know inside
out.

--Sylvain

I've been a CFI since 1968 and every day I learn subtleties about Part 61
from reading Usenet and the AOPA forum.

Bob Gardner

"Sylvain" wrote in message
t...
buttman wrote:

I don't know everything there is to know about aviation inside and out.
Nobody does. What I think is disturbing are those out there who THINK
they know everything inside and out. They are the ones you look out
for.

We were not talking about arcane aviation knowledge, but about a basic
understanding of 14 CFR 61 which as a CFI you should indeed know inside
out.

--Sylvain

"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
. ..
I've been a CFI since 1968 and every day I learn subtleties about Part 61
from reading Usenet and the AOPA forum.

Bob Gardner


Hear, Hear. (or is it "here", I don't know and am afraid to ask)

Al G (CFIAMI for 30+ years)

news.charter.net wrote:


Hear, Hear. (or is it "here", I don't know and am afraid to ask)

Al G (CFIAMI for 30+ years)


The former is correct (from the OED):

13. a. The imperative hear!, now usually repeated, hear! hear!
(formerly hear him! hear him!) is used as an exclamation to call
attention to a speaker's words, and hence has become a general
expression of approbation or ‘cheering’.