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T o d d P a t t i s t wrote:
Consider flying the VFR corridor first and looking at the
Intrepid (aircraft carrier with museum inside), the Concord,
the Statue of Liberty and Governor's Island from the air.
They make the visits on the ground a lot more fun.

Make sure you check the Yankees schedule. If they're playing a game in
Yankee Stadium, the "stealth sports arena TFR" is in effect.

"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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T o d d P a t t i s t wrote:
Consider flying the VFR corridor first and looking at the
Intrepid (aircraft carrier with museum inside), the Concord,
the Statue of Liberty and Governor's Island from the air.
They make the visits on the ground a lot more fun.

Make sure you check the Yankees schedule. If they're playing a game in
Yankee Stadium, the "stealth sports arena TFR" is in effect.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if pilots have ever been cited for
flying the Hudson corridor during a Yankees game? I imagine that such TFR
violations aren't unusual.

--Gary

Roy Smith wrote:
the "stealth sports arena TFR" is in effect.

I actually got surprised by one of those for a UCONN football game this
past weekend. They don't get a discrete listing on the TFR sites, or a
NOTAM, and the AOPA flight planner didn't display it. I'm not into
college football, so I forgot a game was scheduled.

Fortunately, I was listening to BDL approach heard the controller remind
someone else about it!

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B A R R Y wrote:

Roy Smith wrote:
the "stealth sports arena TFR" is in effect.

I actually got surprised by one of those for a UCONN football game this
past weekend. They don't get a discrete listing on the TFR sites, or a
NOTAM, and the AOPA flight planner didn't display it. I'm not into
college football, so I forgot a game was scheduled.

Fortunately, I was listening to BDL approach heard the controller remind
someone else about it!

What an insane system. You don't want me to fly somewhere, at least give
me a clue where and when. Chart the stadiums. At the very least, put a
notam on duats.

The system we have now is just plain nuts.

Roy Smith wrote:
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The system we have now is just plain nuts.

The nuke plant one was even better. The description of where
they were was so bad that they located the two collocated
Salem (NJ) plants in drastically different places and
managed to get neither one in NJ.

Roy Smith wrote:

What an insane system. You don't want me to fly somewhere, at least give
me a clue where and when. Chart the stadiums. At the very least, put a
notam on duats.

I'm with ya'!

I *think* if I had called FSS for an area briefing I would have gotten
it. I prefer duats and the OPA planner, so I usually only call if I
need an a update and I'm not near a computer. Now that football season
has begun, I will ALWAYS call FSS from the airport. The general trend
in every business is to automate as many tasks as possible, as human
interaction is expensive. You'd the FAA (and Lockheed) would want to
help us not call if we can get the info automagically.

You'd think a sports TFR could easily generate a discrete listing on
the FAA TFR site, or even better a NOTAM. Airshow, VIP, etc... TFRs are
NOTAM'd well in advance. It's not like UCONN woke up Saturday morning
and decided to have a football game!

Since ATC knew of the exact TFR, above and beyond the blanket listing
which requires you to know when the events are, some computer system,
somewhere, has the information. I can't understand why it would be so
difficult to link it to duats or make each event pop up on the TFR list.

UCONN's stadium is on the chart, as a closed airstrip. G