shame on garmin??

Garmin is a really big target and if they are not careful, someone is going to take the market from them....



"houstondan" wrote in message ups.com...
:i paid a bit over 2-grand for a shiny new 396. spent hours and lots
: more money learning it and getting it wired to the ships power and
: audio mixer.
:
: first time out, on a bright clear day, the thing loses signal. no wx,
: no gps but the music plays just fine.
:
: fortunately, since i hang around here and the cessna clubs i sorta knew
: there might be a problem.
:
: reboot...problem solved. for about 2 minutes. reboot six times in 30
: minutes. fortunately for me i'm in familiar territory, my ship has lots
: of old dumb guages and i've got a big lowrance 1000 stuck to the
: window.
:
: called garnin and get this: they never even asked my serial number or
: any purchase info. just what address do we send the replacement
: antenna. they absolutely knew they shipped junk and never told me.
: NOT ONE WORD FROM THEM TILL I CALLED.
:
: after reading the nw-pilot experience i'm just getting madder and
: madder thinking about these guys.
:
: when i started out flying, i bought a cheap little lowrance
: i-finder.designed for hiking. found out it has a nearest airport
: feature. works like a charm every time. i've mentioned before that i
: thought lowrance must be a front for the russian army cause their stuff
: is simple, dead dependable and makes a decent weapon or hammer if
: necessary. bought a lowrance 1000 and as i mentioned above, it's
: suction cupped to the left side of the front window.
:
: i don't know what the final report on nw-pilot is going to show but, if
: garmin is going to be the "aviation standard" they better get busy
: talking to their customers and fixing the problems. matter of fact, i
: think they should get someone working this board and the "type-clubs"
: before they find themselves having lunch with general motors wondering
: what happened.
:
: dan
:
:
:
: i
:

HIGHLY doubtful! Garmin owns the market, does a GREAT job, and nobody else
is even in the running.

Karl


".Blueskies." wrote in message
om...
Garmin is a really big target and if they are not careful, someone is
going to take the market from them....



"houstondan" wrote in message
ups.com...
:i paid a bit over 2-grand for a shiny new 396. spent hours and lots
: more money learning it and getting it wired to the ships power and
: audio mixer.
:
: first time out, on a bright clear day, the thing loses signal. no wx,
: no gps but the music plays just fine.
:
: fortunately, since i hang around here and the cessna clubs i sorta knew
: there might be a problem.
:
: reboot...problem solved. for about 2 minutes. reboot six times in 30
: minutes. fortunately for me i'm in familiar territory, my ship has lots
: of old dumb guages and i've got a big lowrance 1000 stuck to the
: window.
:
: called garnin and get this: they never even asked my serial number or
: any purchase info. just what address do we send the replacement
: antenna. they absolutely knew they shipped junk and never told me.
: NOT ONE WORD FROM THEM TILL I CALLED.
:
: after reading the nw-pilot experience i'm just getting madder and
: madder thinking about these guys.
:
: when i started out flying, i bought a cheap little lowrance
: i-finder.designed for hiking. found out it has a nearest airport
: feature. works like a charm every time. i've mentioned before that i
: thought lowrance must be a front for the russian army cause their stuff
: is simple, dead dependable and makes a decent weapon or hammer if
: necessary. bought a lowrance 1000 and as i mentioned above, it's
: suction cupped to the left side of the front window.
:
: i don't know what the final report on nw-pilot is going to show but, if
: garmin is going to be the "aviation standard" they better get busy
: talking to their customers and fixing the problems. matter of fact, i
: think they should get someone working this board and the "type-clubs"
: before they find themselves having lunch with general motors wondering
: what happened.
:
: dan
:
:
:
: i
:

"karl gruber" wrote in message
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HIGHLY doubtful! Garmin owns the market, does a GREAT job, and nobody else
is even in the running.

Karl

Uhhh Yes!! For portable units Look at Avmap and a few other Tablet PC based
GPS systems.

What % of the market do you think they have?


"NW_Pilot" wrote in message
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"karl gruber" wrote in message
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HIGHLY doubtful! Garmin owns the market, does a GREAT job, and nobody
else is even in the running.

Karl

Uhhh Yes!! For portable units Look at Avmap and a few other Tablet PC
based GPS systems.

"karl gruber" wrote in message
...
What % of the market do you think they have?

They have enough % to take large adds in magazines and make a profit! Garmin
is banking on their name from past successes other then aviation! It is to
early to say Garmin owns the aviation market they do have a rather large
marketing team but I don't think that their name will last another 5 years
with the quality of product that is being produced and at a price that one
can buy a better built more reliable item for almost 2/3's the cost!!!

You could have said the SAME thing 5 years ago, and been wrong then too.

Karl
"NW_Pilot" wrote in message
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"karl gruber" wrote in message
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What % of the market do you think they have?

They have enough % to take large adds in magazines and make a profit!
Garmin is banking on their name from past successes other then aviation!
It is to early to say Garmin owns the aviation market they do have a
rather large marketing team but I don't think that their name will last
another 5 years with the quality of product that is being produced and at
a price that one can buy a better built more reliable item for almost
2/3's the cost!!!

"NW_Pilot" wrote:



What % of the market do you think they have?

They have enough % to take large adds in magazines and make a profit!
Garmin is banking on their name from past successes other then aviation! It
is to early to say Garmin owns the aviation market they do have a rather
large marketing team but I don't think that their name will last another 5
years


Nonsense. Garmin dominates their market. No one else is even in the
running. Honeyell Bendix/King is fading fast from light aviation. If anyone
is liable to be gone in 5 years, it is them.

with the quality of product that is being produced and at a price that one
can buy a better built more reliable item for almost 2/3's the cost!!!

None of Garmin's competitors shows any signs of being able to do that, so I
guess it is up to you. What are you going to name your company?


--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

karl gruber writes:

HIGHLY doubtful! Garmin owns the market, does a GREAT job, and nobody else
is even in the running.

Famous last words.

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